Soda Crystals

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Soda Crystals

Post by PieOPah » Mon Sep 18, 2006 2:58 pm

Bought some Soda Crystals to aid in cleaning my fermenter (as advised by DaaB)

How much is good to use for cleaning a 5 Gallon Carboy?

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Post by PieOPah » Mon Sep 18, 2006 6:03 pm

The price was pleasantly surprising. I just need a tub to store them in now since they came in a plastic bag.

norman

Post by norman » Mon Sep 18, 2006 6:44 pm

Soda crystals are also good for cleaning beer glasses,if the head on your beer doesn,t last long try cleaning the glass with a solution.

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Post by oxford brewer » Wed Sep 20, 2006 7:27 pm

DaaB wrote:It all depends on how dried on the crud is. I use anywhere up to 1 generous tbs per liter of warm water and give it a full soak for a few hours or even over night. Other times i'll just fill it (a 1gal carbouy) up with a couple of litres and a couple of teaspoons of crystals and just give it a shake. Its mainly just down to experimenting. I think you'll be pleasantly supprised how effective they are particularly as they are so cheap.
Cleaning my brewing vessels,i always used washing up liquid until last week when i found out that we had a packet of soda crystals(kept under the sink with all the other cleaning products...dont know what they are really.....wife uses them though :shock: :shock: ) so tonight i used them to clean my fermenter and in about an hour it has taken all the dried crud off really well :D .
I think the packet cost about 85p for 1kg...good value!!!!

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Post by Andy » Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:21 pm

51p / kg in Wilko's 8)

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Post by bod » Thu Sep 21, 2006 8:13 am

i got a kilo in asda for 51p as well. great price. 8)

can you use soda crystals for cleaning boiler elements?

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Post by Andy » Thu Sep 21, 2006 9:00 am

DaaB wrote:They work to a certain extent but no where near as good as citric acid. At the end of the day once you've wiped away the soft trubby sort of stuff that can collect on the element you really need an acid to descale the element.
Seconded. I had quite a build up of the furry trub type stuff on my boiler element after the last brew. A dose of citric acid soon sorted it and cleaned up the element nicely.

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Post by PieOPah » Thu Sep 21, 2006 9:56 am

How much citric acid do you guys use? Generally I have put in enough water to just cover my elements and add about a teaspoon worth.

After a 20 minute boil I need to scrub the elements to clean them but they do clean much easier than without.

The first time I had to clean the element (before knowing about citric acid), there was a thick black crust (I think some of the malt extract had burned to the element so got a really crap boil) It too me about an hour.

Now, I give the element a clean after every brew to stop a build up. If more citric acid will make this easier, then I'll use more....

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Post by Andy » Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:27 am

I clean mine in place by just covering the element with water adding a random amount of citric acid and turning the element on - stir a few times as the water heats up but don't let it boil. Sometimes I put the shower head in there also to remove the limescale buildup on that 8)

fizzypop boy

Post by fizzypop boy » Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:48 am

POP keep that black stuff well away from your elements caused me no end of trouble on my first boiler outing!!!

tubby_shaw

Post by tubby_shaw » Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:54 pm

Very interesting link 8)
I especially like
Kettles
Descale your kettle by boiling a regular Soda Crystals solution and a raw potato inside. Rinse thoroughly before use.
Who's gonna be first to try it on there boiler element :lol:
Also
In the home Borax is used as a natural laundry booster, multi-purpose cleaner, disinfectant and desiccant. The crystals are odourless. and can be mixed with most other cleaning agents, including chlorine bleach.
homemade VWP solution anybody :wink:

maxashton

Post by maxashton » Tue Feb 27, 2007 10:03 pm

I was thinking about Borax. I have a box of it somewhere.

(Wilkinsons, around 50p for about 500g)

onlooker

Post by onlooker » Tue May 01, 2007 9:56 am

Im not familar with Soda crystals, perhaps its an english thing. Is it sodium hydroxide ?

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Post by PieOPah » Tue May 01, 2007 10:02 am

Analysis of Washing Soda Crystals

Washing soda is mainly sodium carbonate-10-water, Na2CO3.10H2O. However, Na2CO3.10H2O loses water to the atmosphere (it effloresces). A white powder forms on the surface of the crystals. It’s better to represent washing soda crystals as Na2CO3.xH2O, where x is less than 10. The composition of washing soda crystals can be expressed as a percentage by mass of anhydrous sodium carbonate, Na2CO3. In sodium carbonate-10-water there is 37.1% w/w Na2CO3.
Some document I found.....

steve_flack

Post by steve_flack » Tue May 01, 2007 10:24 am

onlooker wrote:Is it sodium hydroxide ?
We call that caustic soda. It's different...very.

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