No Rinse Sterilisation - The Holy Grail?

[KevP]

Read an old thread over at Irish Craft Brewers http://www.irishcraftbrewer.com/communi ... .php?t=196 That details a no rinse solution that seems tried and tested.

As its 2 years on I am keen to read any opinions people may have, Milton solution as an example lists itself as No Rinse, something I am keen on to cut down time.

[Garth]

I haven't used it but apparently it works well, I'm sure a few forum members have tried it

I have recently gone down the peracetic acid route, no rinse sanitisers make life sooooo much easier, especially bottling which I do a fair amount of.

It does make sense though, why sanitise something then rinse it in tap water which (although rare) could well have nasties in it...?

[Tequilla6]

I have just finished using a box of Milton, only thing I could get in the time frame I had. It does say no rinse but I found that the smell of chlorine is quite powerful. Would I use as a no rinse? because its chlorine based I would say for me no. Now I have a bottle of Vidine and seen the comments i'm moving over to this, just need to get some confidence in the spray. I wish I could get StarSan at a reasonable cost over here...sigh

[vacant]

I switched to videne (500ml under £5) many brews ago, using 1.25ml per litre of water to get a no-rinse solution. I use 750ml in a spray bottle to brew (spraying up taps, etc, pour into and rotate FV, then spray) and another 750ml to bottle. It probably doesn't foam as well as starsan but not hard to get the 30 second contact time as it drains. Obviously everything is properly cleaned & rinsed with hot water first.

[Invalid Stout]

Isn't Milton just (basically) expensive bleach? On the bottle it says you still have to rinse it when using for its intended purpose.

[Shoit]

The draw backs I mentioned in the other thread still stand.

Fortunately regular cleaning kills a lot of bacteria so serious infections are unlikely if you get it wrong although I wouldn't want to rely on this method for making a keeping beer or for propogating yeats.

What is your current cleaning process for bottles? I'd love to look at a no-rinse solution!

Kev

[Invalid Stout]

My bottling procedure:

Dirty bottles get soaked in soda solution and rinsed. Give clean bottles a rinse in cold water. Make up a Videne solution in a clean FV and submerge bottles in it two at a time. Remove and empty the bottles and fill them with beer; while I'm doing this the next two bottles are in the Videne solution. Once all the bottles are filled, I cap them all.

Mind, I do small batches so I generally fill less than 20 bottles at a time. If you were doing 40 this might get a bit tedious.

[Shoit]

After pouring a beer; rinse them clean straight away (or the next morning at least).

Before filling; Spray 1/2 a dozen with beer line cleaner, rinse, then spray with Star San.

Here's an example http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ76l_auDXQ

Presumably antiformin S would do the same job as the beer line cleaner? Also, do you rinse the star san off afterwards?

Kev