Thin Bleach mixed with soda crystals?

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quiff

Thin Bleach mixed with soda crystals?

Post by quiff » Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:14 pm

I've been searching to see if this is a big no-no. I have found that caustic soda and bleach should not be mixed but can soda crystals be mixed with it?
Will probably clean and sterilise separately anyway but wondered if both could be done at the same time?

Graham

Re: Thin Bleach mixed with soda crystals?

Post by Graham » Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:28 pm

quiff wrote:I've been searching to see if this is a big no-no. I have found that caustic soda and bleach should not be mixed but can soda crystals be mixed with it?
Will probably clean and sterilise separately anyway but wondered if both could be done at the same time?
There will be no harm done by mixing the two, you won't gas yourself or blow yourself up, but you might reduce the killing power of the bleach by holding the pH too high. It is probably pointless anyway, because bleach has a bit of caustic soda in it, which is a much more powerful cleaner than soda crystals.

A strong solution of bleach is the better bet.

EDIT: Who is that bloke that keeps jumping in front of me?

quiff

Re: Thin Bleach mixed with soda crystals?

Post by quiff » Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:46 pm

Thanks guys,
while you are there, if I was to soak the bottles overnight in a bath of bleach solution, what dilution strength do you think would bu sufficient to sterilise?

quiff

Re: Thin Bleach mixed with soda crystals?

Post by quiff » Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:32 pm

Thanks Chris.
All 150 bottles have been sat behind the pub from whence they came for weeks so will need separate cleaning and sanitising.
Will scrub and soak in a bath of soda crystal solution overnight to try and remove the labels and sit in a bath of bleach solution at 10ml/L for an hour or so to sanitise ready for bottling Sunday afternoon. Right, sorted in my head at least :D
Cheers

Graham

Re: Thin Bleach mixed with soda crystals?

Post by Graham » Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:01 pm

You will probably have dried-on crud in the bottom and mould. You will need to inspect every one for cleanliness after cleaning:D

Stubborn deposits can be shifted by putting a few grains of rice in the bottle along with some cleaner and swilling it around. You will have muscles like Popeye's after 150 of them though.

quiff

Re: Thin Bleach mixed with soda crystals?

Post by quiff » Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:13 pm

Yeah, I'm really looking forward to it..... :^o

think beer...think beer....think beer....think beer....

mysterio

Re: Thin Bleach mixed with soda crystals?

Post by mysterio » Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:23 pm

GREAT idea about the drop of washing up liquid in the bleach solution. I'm stealing that one!

mysterio

Re: Thin Bleach mixed with soda crystals?

Post by mysterio » Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:54 pm

Anything that has been left dirty for any length of time will be a pig to clean.
I need all the help I can get in this respect. I still haven't emptied my mash tun or hop trub from when I brewed last week :-$

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Re: Thin Bleach mixed with soda crystals?

Post by timmydog » Wed Dec 02, 2009 2:34 pm

Chris-x1 wrote:10 ml per litre for sanitising.
Ah! Interesting. I've been brewing for a while now, but thought that I would re-check my "a good glug or 2" measurement for the bleach and found that I probably ought to be using a bit more than I do at the moment. :roll:

I'm also going to steal the idea of putting a bit of washing up liquid in, just because the wetting agent idea makes a lot of sense.

There is another idea, in this thread, that recommends a bit of vinegar as well. What do people think of that as an idea?

Tim

De-Geert

Re: Thin Bleach mixed with soda crystals?

Post by De-Geert » Wed Dec 02, 2009 4:44 pm

I'd like to add that adding vinegar to bleach can be very dangerous because of the Chlorine gas that can be formed.

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