Peracetic acid: Is yours stored safely?

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Re: Peracetic acid: Is yours stored safely?

Post by aamcle » Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:10 pm

20+ years in labs, store it properly wear gloves n eye protection and you should have no issues.

Mind you one lab I worked on had KCn solution in wash bottles, what made me a bit uncomfortable was that the labels usually came off. Mmmm..... Not so good.

As for the mineral acids and caustics in all those years I never got a burn, wash them away with plenty of water, don't tell the water board, and there gone.
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Re: Peracetic acid: Is yours stored safely?

Post by orlando » Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:22 am

I've been looking for information on the denaturing and therefore effectiveness over time of a 5% solution of PA diluted @ 10 ml/l. I make up a 15 litre batch each brew day and store for sanitising bits of kit over the whole time of the brew up to packaging. This can be as much as 2 weeks +. At what point has the effectiveness diminished to one of unacceptable risk? I'm looking for data and not just anecdote. :D
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Re: Peracetic acid: Is yours stored safely?

Post by oz11 » Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:44 pm

As no one else has yet replied....

I have tried to find something to back up what I was told but I can't. But we were told to make a new batch every time we use it as it degrades over a matter of hours. Hopefully someone will be able to add to this.

Added: There's a tiny bit here which mentions rapid decomposition when diluted.

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Re: Peracetic acid: Is yours stored safely?

Post by oz11 » Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:30 pm

orlando wrote:I've been looking for information on the denaturing and therefore effectiveness over time of a 5% solution of PA diluted @ 10 ml/l. I make up a 15 litre batch each brew day and store for sanitising bits of kit over the whole time of the brew up to packaging. This can be as much as 2 weeks +. At what point has the effectiveness diminished to one of unacceptable risk? I'm looking for data and not just anecdote. :D
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Re: Peracetic acid: Is yours stored safely?

Post by keith1664 » Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:04 pm

kebabman wrote:I was just about to post something similar as I had noticed that my container of peracetic had swollen and after venting was unsafe looking again after a fairly short while.
As the bottle kept swelling up, even when kept in the fridge, I have thrown the stuff away.
I don't think peracetic is safe to store domestically.
I think there's an issue with the supplier here. I had the same issue and ended up keeping it in a fridge with the lid slightly loosened.
Some research threw up the fact that it should have a vented cap, one wonders how the supplier doesn't know this, or if they do why they're leaving themselves open to litigation when one ruptures.
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Re: Peracetic acid: Is yours stored safely?

Post by BenB » Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:48 pm

http://www.skychemicals.co.uk/content/1 ... ficile-027

looks like good stuff. Tempted to buy stuff to nuke the equipment every now and again.

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Re: Peracetic acid: Is yours stored safely?

Post by CJR » Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:47 pm

Hi there,

I'm going to assume that the PA I have isn't stored safely and, as we don't use it professionally, I would like to dispose of it (I do own StarSan and other cleaning and sterilising agents). What is the safest way to do so, or is it a down the drain in the dark in the alley job?

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Re: Peracetic acid: Is yours stored safely?

Post by orlando » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:09 pm

CJR wrote:What is the safest way to do so, or is it a down the drain in the dark in the alley job?
Not if you live in a Village like I do that has all its road drains connected to the local river, we regularly have pollution events that kill everything in it through careless disposal of chemicals. :cry:
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Re: Peracetic acid: Is yours stored safely?

Post by CJR » Fri Jun 16, 2017 12:46 pm

Might lob it in a black bag full of cat litter then. Next bin day make it gone and not my issue. However it's a city so unlikely to discharge into the river without treatment.
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Re: Peracetic acid: Is yours stored safely?

Post by orlando » Fri Jun 16, 2017 4:26 pm

CJR wrote:Might lob it in a black bag full of cat litter then.
They smell the same. :lol:
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Re: Peracetic acid: Is yours stored safely?

Post by McMullan » Fri Jun 16, 2017 5:09 pm

CJR wrote:Hi there,

I'm going to assume that the PA I have isn't stored safely and, as we don't use it professionally, I would like to dispose of it (I do own StarSan and other cleaning and sterilising agents). What is the safest way to do so, or is it a down the drain in the dark in the alley job?

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You could simply take it to your local recycling centre, where they'll dispose of it appropriately. Failing that, water it down and splash it on your fish and chips.

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Peracetiacid: Is yours stored safely?

Post by palmso » Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:00 am

The fish & chips suggestion has some merit. Left opened in a safe place, PAA will degrade to acetic acid as it loses its spare O. For the same reason, diluted for use solutions do not last very long. I think Murphy's of Nottingham may have a quick test method.

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