PBW - Excel Calculation sheet

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PBW - Excel Calculation sheet

Post by jmc » Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:02 am

Following on from a request from orlando I've created a 1st version of an Excel calculation sheet to work out weight of PBW to add when making up a cleaning solution.

Variables are
a) Litres of cleaning solution you are making
and
b) Drop down list of type of cleaning you're doing.

*** Edit *** Version 3 now available compatible with Excel 2003, 2007 & 2010
PBW Excel Calc Sheet version 3 available for download here (Excel .xls file).

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*** End Edit ***

Feedback appreciated.

BTW Unfortunately I don't have any PBW.
I could add volume amounts if I knew density of PBW eg weight of teaspoon of PBW (5.91939cc) or (better) weight of 100cc of PBW.

See also
Five Star PBW Tech Sheet (PDF)
Topics
PBW instructions translated to metric
Starsan--have I got this right?

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Re: PBW - Excel Calculation sheet

Post by orlando » Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:37 pm

First class John, thank you very much a really good tool to have. As an example I wanted to just clean my plate chiller from yesterdays brew. I had already given it a good flush but was unhappy as I saw bits of hop coming out. I can get the chiller in a small bucket and have it covered and soaking in as little as 3 litres of water. My guess up till now was approx. 5 grams per litre, your calculator suggests this is light by 2 grams (1,9 to be precise). Another thing I like to do is clean my 2 litre flask for making starters, again small amounts which I can now accurately clean properly.

Brilliant =D> =D> =D>

My only complaint is I will probably be using a lot more PBW and it is wickedly expensive, but not as bad as throwing a brew down the drain.
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Re: PBW - Excel Calculation sheet

Post by orlando » Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:41 pm

On further examination I have noticed that the Non CIP clean has the same cleaning method as CIP.
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Re: PBW - Excel Calculation sheet

Post by jmc » Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:03 pm

orlando wrote:On further examination I have noticed that the Non CIP clean has the same cleaning method as CIP.
I used the cleaning method I saw on the image below, which seems to be the same, apart from a different dosage for all cleaning apart from the Carbonized / Protien stained stuff.

I can add other types of cleaning , methods & dosing if you want?

Have you got some way of accurately weighing say 25, 50 or 100cc of PBW so I can add a line indicating number of teaspoons to use?

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Re: PBW - Excel Calculation sheet

Post by orlando » Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:15 am

I have some gram scales but nothing that I can measure cc's in. I remember there is a podcast somewhere that has John Palmer and possibly Jamil interviewing a guy prom 5 Star that might contain a bit more information, unfortunately I can't remember where or whether it was linked to form on here. If I remember I will point you at it.
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Re: PBW - Excel Calculation sheet

Post by jmc » Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:53 am

orlando wrote:I have some gram scales but nothing that I can measure cc's in. I remember there is a podcast somewhere that has John Palmer and possibly Jamil interviewing a guy prom 5 Star that might contain a bit more information, unfortunately I can't remember where or whether it was linked to form on here. If I remember I will point you at it.
Thanks for suggestion to look for Five Star comments.

I found some useful info from Jim Jennings from Five Star

I've included this info to include added dosage options based on volume. See:
PBW Excel Calc Sheet version 2 available for download here (Excel .xlsx file).
As before feedback appreciated.

I've also added an option to soak for homebrewers as most of the other info was for CIP / commercial cleaning. There's lots of varying suggestions for dosage on the web, but I've based on the dosage in this calc sheet on info from Five Star.

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Re: PBW - Excel Calculation sheet

Post by orlando » Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:48 pm

Excellent again John. Just one further question, is there any issues over the length of time varying say by material base of item being cleaned?
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Re: PBW - Excel Calculation sheet

Post by jmc » Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:43 pm

orlando wrote:Excellent again John. Just one further question, is there any issues over the length of time varying say by material base of item being cleaned?
I couldn't see anything specific on PBW's use with different materials apart from a mention on
John Palmer - How To Brew - Brewing Metallurgy

A 1% of PBW solution is about 11-12 ph, so its very alkaline, so personally I wouldn't let it sit in Aluminium for long.

See Five-Star MATERIAL SAFETY DATA SHEET (PDF)

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Re: PBW - Excel Calculation sheet

Post by orlando » Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:28 pm

Righto, thanks again.
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Re: PBW - Excel Calculation sheet

Post by barry44 » Sat Dec 08, 2012 12:02 pm

Gents,

what length of time should i be soaking the fv for?

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Re: PBW - Excel Calculation sheet

Post by orlando » Sat Dec 08, 2012 12:43 pm

30 minutes is fine for a lightly soiled one.
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Re: PBW - Excel Calculation sheet

Post by barry44 » Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:03 am

many thanks orlando.

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Re: PBW - Excel Calculation sheet

Post by NorthEastBrewer » Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:57 pm

Many thanks for creating this spreadsheet, version 2 has helped me loads tonight.

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Re: PBW - Excel Calculation sheet

Post by orlando » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:12 am

All down to jmc really I was just the slave driver :lol:
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Re: PBW - Excel Calculation sheet

Post by jmc » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:36 am

NorthEastBrewer wrote:Many thanks for creating this spreadsheet, version 2 has helped me loads tonight.
Glad it was useful. ATB John

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