cleaning bottles with no rinse sanitizer

[DaveyT]

Does anybody clean their bottles with this stuff? I've been following Charlie Papazian's advice and soaking them over night in a mild bleach solution.
Also pipes and tubes. I'm guessing they have to be immersed rather than sprayed.
I've just got hold of some so it's a whole new world for me.

Cheers
David

EDIT: I think this ought to be in the Cleaning section. Apologies.

[DeadFall]

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[DaveyT]

Right under my nose!

Cheers

And thanks for the shift to Cleaning. Will be less dosey next time.

[CestrIan]

I'm not sure you should use starsan to clean bottles. I made this mistake at first. I used to sanitise my bottles in a weak bleach solution and then tripple rinse before bottling. I never had a problem. When I first started using starsan I stopped using bleach completely until after a couple of batches I held a bottle up to the light that I was about to put my precious beer in and I realised that the bottle was filthy. Now i soak all my bottles in bleach to clean and then rinse and store them in crates labelled as cleaned. I use starsan on the day to sanitise.

[Piscator]

Does anybody clean their bottles with this stuff? I've been following Charlie Papazian's advice and soaking them over night in a mild bleach solution.
Also pipes and tubes. I'm guessing they have to be immersed rather than sprayed.
I've just got hold of some so it's a whole new world for me.

Cheers
David

EDIT: I think this ought to be in the Cleaning section. Apologies.

As small but important point to make - cleaning is not the same as sanitising.

Cleaning removes physical soiling which would otherwise reduce the effectiveness of sanitisers which will react with organics.

You need a detergent and physical action for cleaning, followed up by a sanitiser.

Starsan is for sanitising cleaned surfaces.

[DeadFall]

oxy to clean, star-san to sanitize.

[CestrIan]

As small but important point to make - cleaning is not the same as sanitising.

Cleaning removes physical soiling which would otherwise reduce the effectiveness of sanitisers which will react with organics.

You need a detergent and physical action for cleaning, followed up by a sanitiser.

Starsan is for sanitising cleaned surfaces.

That's what I was trying to say.

[jock128]

My last bottling session was sanitised with starsan, and I'll never go back! I'll just emphasise the sanitise part of that, they are thoroughly cleaned prior to the application of starsan.

[Maysie]

Soda Crystals or Oxy for cleaning, then rinse well and use (no-rinse) StarSan for sanitising.
Works a treat.

As others have said, sanitising wont 'clean' the bottle.