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Starsan Discontinued ?

Post by minesapint » Sat Sep 28, 2019 8:27 pm

I have just read an advertising email from a UK home Brewing Shop.
It tells me that Starsan has been discontinued in Europe due to problems with some of the ingredients. The email then goes on to recommend an alternative that they are now stocking.

Does any one know what the problems are supposed to be with Starsan, or could it be the European Officialdom being a bit too protective?

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Re: Starsan Discontinued ?

Post by Jim » Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:03 am

If true, that's a real shame. It's good stuff.

What's the alternative they're recommending?
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Re: Starsan Discontinued ?

Post by Kevwaller » Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:19 am

Chemsan is the alternative half price at mm this weekend


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Re: Starsan Discontinued ?

Post by Jim » Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:36 am

Kevwaller wrote:
Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:19 am
Chemsan is the alternative half price at mm this weekend


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Looks OK. In stock at the MM as well - https://www.themaltmiller.co.uk/product ... ser-500ml/ . Panic over.
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Re: Starsan Discontinued ?

Post by minesapint » Sun Sep 29, 2019 12:19 pm

Hello Jim.
"Panic over." Not fully over.

We may have a good substitute available to us, but what was the unacceptable ingredient ?

How does it affect us physically ?

More importantly, will it see us off before our poor battered livers give out ?

I have been going around the internet looking for any information, but none is forthcoming.

I doubt a niche product like Starsan being withdrawn will hit the headlines, so we may never find out the cause.


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Re: Starsan Discontinued ?

Post by PeeBee » Sun Sep 29, 2019 12:51 pm

BrewUK is putting about a Star San clone called "Chemsan" (https://www.brewuk.co.uk/chem-100.html), also based on phosphoric acid.

I doubt any of listed the ingredients in Star San got it banned. More likely the traceability of the ingredients has fallen under suspicion?

(EDIT: Oops, didn't notice "Kevwaller" already mentioned this "Chemsan").

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Re: Starsan Discontinued ?

Post by MuckyFunster » Sun Sep 29, 2019 1:19 pm

What about this ‘Saniclean’?

http://www.innhousebrewery.co.uk/p53765 ... 473ml.html




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Post by LeeH » Sun Sep 29, 2019 2:00 pm

MuckyFunster wrote:What about this ‘Saniclean’?

http://www.innhousebrewery.co.uk/p53765 ... 473ml.html




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Re: Starsan Discontinued ?

Post by john luc » Sun Sep 29, 2019 3:38 pm

I think they were using chlorinated chicken in the making of it :=P
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Re: Starsan Discontinued ?

Post by greenwood » Sun Sep 29, 2019 6:44 pm

Try ‘milk stone remover’ from agricultural shop ( phosphoric acid dilute to 2% or less) ... you may have to buy 20 litres but only about £20 . Mole valley sell it in south west


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Re: Starsan Discontinued ?

Post by PeeBee » Sun Sep 29, 2019 7:27 pm

greenwood wrote:
Sun Sep 29, 2019 6:44 pm
Try ‘milk stone remover’ from agricultural shop ( phosphoric acid dilute to 2% or less) ... you may have to buy 20 litres but only about £20 . Mole valley sell it in south west
"Milk stone remover" … now that was an eye opener! There appears to be a whole world of weird and wonderful (and very cheap!) "sanitisers" out there of which "San Star" is a very small tip of the iceberg.

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Re: Starsan Discontinued ?

Post by ingo » Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:57 am

Can you get peraceticacid in the UK?

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Re: Starsan Discontinued ?

Post by vacant » Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:54 am

I'd just go back to Videne Antiseptic Solution. I only switched to Starsan last time for a change. Price for either isn't an issue as a tiny amount is used in a brew or bottling session.

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Starsan Discontinued ?

Post by f00b4r » Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:19 am

Yes, but that comes with its own issues of proper storage etc. Not a problem for some that I know who use it but there are some less careful.
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Re: Starsan Discontinued ?

Post by Jocky » Mon Sep 30, 2019 1:17 pm

minesapint wrote:
Sun Sep 29, 2019 12:19 pm
Hello Jim.
"Panic over." Not fully over.

We may have a good substitute available to us, but what was the unacceptable ingredient ?

How does it affect us physically ?

More importantly, will it see us off before our poor battered livers give out ?

I have been going around the internet looking for any information, but none is forthcoming.

I doubt a niche product like Starsan being withdrawn will hit the headlines, so we may never find out the cause.


Cheers.
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