Secondary fermentation advice

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Re: Secondary fermentation advice

Post by Fil » Fri Sep 15, 2017 6:54 pm

Hey @Cliffedge, just look what you have started, with one of your first posts too ;)

dont let it put you off asking Q's tho..
ist update for months n months..
Fermnting: not a lot..
Conditioning: nowt
Maturing: Challenger smash, and a kit lager
Drinking: dry one minikeg left in the store
Coming Soon Lots planned for the near future nowt for the immediate :(

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Re: Secondary fermentation advice

Post by Rhodesy » Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:09 pm

Jocky wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2017 6:42 pm
The 'right' way is very subjective when it comes to home brewing.

For some people the right way is the way with the least effort to something remotely drinkable.

For me it's to make the best beer I can... Within reasonable time/effort limits.

For others it's whatever is the most technical/fun/crazy.

And there are many other permutations.

Home Brewing is and should be a broad church, so I will rail at anyone saying 'mine is the way and the truth'.
Totally agree

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Re: Secondary fermentation advice

Post by McMullan » Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:51 pm

It's not a matter of opinion, unless you're on a HB forum :?

Blame 'CliffEdge'' :lol:

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Re: Secondary fermentation advice

Post by orlando » Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:35 pm

Whole threads on a Cliffedge right now. :D
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Re: Secondary fermentation advice

Post by Rhodesy » Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:48 pm

McMullan wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:51 pm
It's not a matter of opinion, unless you're on a HB forum :?

Blame 'CliffEdge'' :lol:
Everyone has an opinion, when that is translated as matter of fact thats something different :D

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Re: Secondary fermentation advice

Post by CliffEdge » Sat Sep 16, 2017 10:35 am

OOO err!! Think I need a beer...which reminds me....... :D :D

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Re: Secondary fermentation advice

Post by McMullan » Sat Sep 16, 2017 11:05 am

Brewing is a well documented process, it isn’t based on opinion. Opinions differ in how best to achieve the procedures of the process at home. Leaving bits out doesn’t produce the best results. A secondary vessel has a real function and it doesn't have to be expensive, complicated or risky. If O2 is a concern, purge the air from the sanitised SV with CO2 evolved from primary fermentation. All that’s required here is a tap on the SV and some tubing.

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Re: Secondary fermentation advice

Post by CliffEdge » Sat Sep 16, 2017 11:23 am

My purpose in reading this forum and asking you guys for your ideas was to be able to produce the best acceptable product for myself with the knowledge and equipment I have, and then tweak the process using hints and tips given by you to improve the way it was done, and the end result.

I must say so far for me this has been successful and I now have understandings that, seven days ago, I was unaware of!

Cheers!

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Re: Secondary fermentation advice

Post by Rhodesy » Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:25 pm

McMullan wrote:
Sat Sep 16, 2017 11:05 am
Brewing is a well documented process, it isn’t based on opinion. Opinions differ in how best to achieve the procedures of the process at home. Leaving bits out doesn’t produce the best results. A secondary vessel has a real function and it doesn't have to be expensive, complicated or risky. If O2 is a concern, purge the air from the sanitised SV with CO2 evolved from primary fermentation. All that’s required here is a tap on the SV and some tubing.
My opinion is that a secondary vessel is not a mandatory requirement to produce the best beer possible. We'll agree to disagree.

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Re: Secondary fermentation advice

Post by Rhodesy » Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:25 pm

CliffEdge wrote:
Sat Sep 16, 2017 11:23 am
My purpose in reading this forum and asking you guys for your ideas was to be able to produce the best acceptable product for myself with the knowledge and equipment I have, and then tweak the process using hints and tips given by you to improve the way it was done, and the end result.

I must say so far for me this has been successful and I now have understandings that, seven days ago, I was unaware of!

Cheers!


haha good stuff, it can get quite emotive at times :=P

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Re: Secondary fermentation advice

Post by DaveGillespie » Mon Sep 18, 2017 9:46 am

Brewing is a well documented process, it isn’t based on opinion. Opinions differ in how best to achieve the procedures of the process at home. Leaving bits out doesn’t produce the best results. A secondary vessel has a real function and it doesn't have to be expensive, complicated or risky. If O2 is a concern, purge the air from the sanitised SV with CO2 evolved from primary fermentation. All that’s required here is a tap on the SV and some tubing.
That will only lead to a dilution of the O2, not an elimination of it - to completely purge you would need a sealable vessel to do a liquid purge. As long as the beer is racked with plenty of remaining fermentable extract it should be OK though.

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Re: Secondary fermentation advice

Post by McMullan » Mon Sep 18, 2017 11:37 am

According to my nasal acid sensors, it's mainly CO2 in the SV after a couple days. It's quite painful to inhale the stuff. A lot of CO2 is released from the wort during transfer too. I haven't noticed any issues, even without purging the SV. I've got a Saison that's been in a secondary for about 6 weeks. It tastes fantastic and is ready to bottle.

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Re: Secondary fermentation advice

Post by WalesAles » Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:44 pm

Jocky wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2017 6:42 pm

For others it's whatever is the most technical/fun/crazy.

so I will rail at anyone saying 'mine is the way and the truth'.
Jocky,
I could not resist any longer.........

`Mine is the Way and the Truth` :D

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Re: Secondary fermentation advice

Post by Fil » Mon Sep 18, 2017 4:07 pm

All Hail WA!!

btw do we still burn heretics and false prophets at the HB festival??
ist update for months n months..
Fermnting: not a lot..
Conditioning: nowt
Maturing: Challenger smash, and a kit lager
Drinking: dry one minikeg left in the store
Coming Soon Lots planned for the near future nowt for the immediate :(

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Re: Secondary fermentation advice

Post by rootsbrew » Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:01 am

Fil wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2017 4:07 pm
All Hail WA!!

btw do we still burn heretics and false prophets at the HB festival??
No. We put the in the fermenter and bubble them alive. Mahahaha!

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