Making my hops pop

(That's water to the rest of us!) Beer is about 95% water, so if you want to discuss water treatment, filtering etc this is the place to do it!
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Re: Making my hops pop

Post by killer » Mon Sep 15, 2014 10:23 pm

Those numbers look to be in the right ballpark all right. You could push up to 2.5g Calcium chloride and add 2 or 3 more grams of gypsum but I doubt you'd pick out much of a difference in the finished product...

One thing to watch out for when you buy your salts is to check if they are dry - Many salts come as anhydrous - the pure dry salt. Sometimes they come as a hydrate - they pick up water from the recrystallization process. It's not a problem at all but means you need to slightly recalculate your additions as they can be 50% (or more or less) water by mass - come on here if you need a hand with calculations.

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Re: Making my hops pop

Post by hophit » Tue Sep 16, 2014 5:49 pm

Matt12398 wrote:I disagree. Making the hops pop can't be achieved by more hops. Without water treatment the hop zing is not possible unless you already have water that allows for that. My water is very similar to mcbrewer's and with added sulphate I get zingy hops every time. It's like putting salt on your chips.
Sorry I wasn't very clear. Didn't mean to suggest you can correct the problem with more hops, or that treatment won't make them pop. More that they won't pop if you aren't using them correctly in the first place. You can't polish a turd, as it were.

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Re: Making my hops pop

Post by Mcbrewer » Tue Sep 16, 2014 8:19 pm

killer wrote: One thing to watch out for when you buy your salts is to check if they are dry - Many salts come as anhydrous - the pure dry salt. Sometimes they come as a hydrate - they pick up water from the recrystallization process. It's not a problem at all but means you need to slightly recalculate your additions as they can be 50% (or more or less) water by mass - come on here if you need a hand with calculations.
Is the brupaks salts you get from brew uk the dry salts and what do you use for the sodium chloride addition,is it just normal table salt.

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Re: Making my hops pop

Post by killer » Tue Sep 16, 2014 9:01 pm

I would presume so... They don't note that they contain water on the label so I would hope so. I have certainly given them the benefit of the doubt.

I don't use table salt but many people do. Plain table salt with Sodium Chloride on the label is fine - just try to make sure it's one without iodine in it.

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Re: Making my hops pop

Post by Mcbrewer » Tue Sep 16, 2014 9:08 pm

Thanks killer you've been a great help =D>

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Re: Making my hops pop

Post by Mcbrewer » Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:49 am

hophit wrote:
Sorry I wasn't very clear. Didn't mean to suggest you can correct the problem with more hops, or that treatment won't make them pop. More that they won't pop if you aren't using them correctly in the first place. You can't polish a turd, as it were.
You have given me a great name to call my next brew,Polished Turd IPA.
Thanks :lol:

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Re: Making my hops pop

Post by WallyBrew » Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:57 am

Gypsum by its name is the dihydrate of calcium sulphate so it will contain 2 waters

Calcium chloride is a desiccant and will absorb water until it no longer appears as a solid. The dihydrate is stable.

I think someone on here once dried some brewpaks salts and the calcium chloride then became a desiccant and they ended up with a soggy mess.

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Re: Making my hops pop

Post by southcoastjim » Wed Sep 17, 2014 1:57 pm

If you have beersmith 2 you can add water profiles to your brew sheet, and it will tell you the exact additions you need based on your water to achieve a given profile. Very handy!

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