Where to get my Water analysed?

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Where to get my Water analysed?

Post by boff » Mon Apr 13, 2015 7:21 am

I want to get my brewing water analysed. I have some basic information from the local water company but there are gaps. Where is the best place to get this done? A lot of people recommend Murphys but reading some of the threads on here, it would seem that there have been some errors in their reports from time to time.

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Re: Where to get my Water analysed?

Post by BenB » Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:10 am

If you PM Wallybrew on here he does water analysis. Very happy with the one he did for me last month.

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Re: Where to get my Water analysed?

Post by GrowlingDogBeer » Mon Apr 13, 2015 10:42 am

Definitely PM WallyBrew (Phoenix Analytical), very good analysis.

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Re: Where to get my Water analysed?

Post by Pinto » Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:52 am

GrowlingDogBeer wrote:Definitely PM WallyBrew (Phoenix Analytical), very good analysis.
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Re: Where to get my Water analysed?

Post by sladeywadey » Mon Apr 13, 2015 12:15 pm

We used to get this done by Murphy's - what does wallybrew offer in addition to Murphy's?

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Re: Where to get my Water analysed?

Post by Pinto » Mon Apr 13, 2015 12:42 pm

sladeywadey wrote:We used to get this done by Murphy's - what does wallybrew offer in addition to Murphy's?
Cheaper for a start, and Wallybrew being a member here, is easy to get hold of and a very friendly and helpful chap. There have also been documented issues with Murphy's reports (search for examples) and to my knowledge, no such issues with WB reports....

As the BBC say....other analysis services are available :lol:
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Re: Where to get my Water analysed?

Post by Matt12398 » Mon Apr 13, 2015 12:43 pm

sladeywadey wrote:We used to get this done by Murphy's - what does wallybrew offer in addition to Murphy's?
Accuracy

+1 to Wallybrew/Phoenix Analytical

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Re: Where to get my Water analysed?

Post by Eric » Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:43 pm

sladeywadey wrote:We used to get this done by Murphy's - what does wallybrew offer in addition to Murphy's?
Measurements of sodium, potassium, nitrates and phosphates, chlorine and conductivity (TDS), but perhaps most important of all, he checks his findings.
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Re: Where to get my Water analysed?

Post by MTW » Mon Apr 13, 2015 3:20 pm

Would be interesting to hear if someone sent two samples from the same tap and time to two different labs.
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Re: Where to get my Water analysed?

Post by barneey » Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:54 pm

MTW wrote:Would be interesting to hear if someone sent two samples from the same tap and time to two different labs.
I did the very same thing back in 2012 (both samples taken at the same time), I questioned both reports at the time & both said theirs was correct, so being relatively new to the water treatment scene I posted this question

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=53767&p=565929&hilit=water#p565929

Only one member on JBK sent me a PM letting me know that the figure of Calcium as Ca 64.80 was incorrect.

I only use Wallybrew now to test water samples, pity he wasn't testing them back in 2012.
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Re: Where to get my Water analysed?

Post by boff » Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:50 pm

Thanks for the advice I have pm'd Wallybrew
I want to brew the Bohemian Pils from Greg Hughes book. I think my water is relatively soft but as the company I work for make ultra pure RO systems and I was visiting the service office I thought I would borrow 30l of water, they have moved all the equipment and not set it back up yet. and haven't got a drop of water #-o I'm going have to buy some :(

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Re: Where to get my Water analysed?

Post by sladeywadey » Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:23 am

Some interesting comments. Looks like I need to try the new service

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Re: Where to get my Water analysed?

Post by DerbyshireNick » Tue Apr 14, 2015 2:45 pm

Has anyone ever looked into being able to do this themselves?

I had a look but couldn't get hold of test kits for everything. My concern was that while I am sure analysis is accurate at the time of testing with mixed and varying watersources / weather etc really we need to be checking each brew.

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Re: Where to get my Water analysed?

Post by Aleman » Tue Apr 14, 2015 2:47 pm

Someone was putting a test kit together in the US . . .Cost was somewhere in the region of 200 quid IIRC

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Re: Where to get my Water analysed?

Post by barneey » Tue Apr 14, 2015 4:17 pm

& for the same amount of money you could get your water tested once a month for a year to build a water profile ;) useful if you water bounces around a lot, mine doesn't really change at all so am fairly confident the figures can be used brew to brew. Always check Alkalinity & you could check TDS also before each brew.
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