1st AG brew recipe

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ade1865

1st AG brew recipe

Post by ade1865 » Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:15 am

right, I've come over to the dark side and I'm looking for a little Yoda-like advice.

I'll be making my first AG brew shortly, and I want to make something simple. this is so that I have less to think about on the day, and also so that I can assess how certain ingredients taste and look.

However, having said that I would also like to make something like the beers I like to drink: anything along the lines of Exmoor Gold, Fursty Ferret, Otter Ale, Gem, just to name a few.

So really i'm looking for something using 1 type of hop and as simple a grain bill as poss, any suggestions?

I'll probably be using s-04 or nottingham yeast.

sills

Post by sills » Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:20 am

this is the first ag recipe I ever did
3kg Crushed Pale Malt
125g Crushed Crystal Malt
50g golding hops

most hb shops sell pale malt in 3kg bags which make this realy easy.

ade1865

Post by ade1865 » Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:27 am

wow, that was quick! cheers sills. How did you split the hops for bitterness etc, and what did it taste like?

delboy

Post by delboy » Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:42 am

As a newbie you might have pretty poor efficency.

I would suggest something along the lines of
5kg Pale Malt (MO if you can get it)
crystal Malt 0.3 Kg (you can up it a tad if you want something darker).


Cascade 15g at 60 mins
cascade 15g at 30 mins
cascade 15g at 1 min

This works very well with nottingham, a peachy ester it produces dovetails really well with cascade and produces something akin to the fruityness of badger ales IMO.
Since its a single hop variety beer it'll give you a feel for what cascade brings to a beer.

Because its low in IBUs (about 20) and nottingham is a quick worker its ready to drink reasonably quickly which is always a bonus with a first brew.

sills

Post by sills » Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:32 pm

I made my recipe twice, I cant remember what it was like but it must have been ok or I would not have made it the second time :lol: . Now I must admit that I found the recipe on the internet some where before I found this forum, so I new nothing about efficiencies splitting hops and sparging etc. I would not have taken a SG before fermenting but I would imagine it would be quite low, so I will make another batch and see some time. But all in all it still remains a very simple recipe.
The answer to your question about splitting the hops they all went in at the start of the boil.
Having said all this I think I am going to give Del boys recipe a go. :lol:

ade1865

Post by ade1865 » Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:36 am

If using Delboy's recipe, and I think this is the way I'm going to go, love my Badger beers, would this be a 90 minute boil? And when you say add hops at 60 mins, is that 60 mins til the end of boil, or 60 mins from the start?

Also Daab, your mention of aroma hops with 10 mins to go, is that instead of the earliest hops mentioned by delboy, or as well as? And is it in light of the thread on Hop utilisation-late hopping?

Or am I getting confused :lol:

delboy

Post by delboy » Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:53 pm

Sorry only getting back to this thread now :oops:, i was thinking a 60 min boil in total, since its your first brew you'll be running around like a blue arsed fly (if my first brew day was anything to go by :lol: ) and it'll take longer than you think (for the first time at least) so shaving 30 mins of the brew day will hopefully mean you get it done in a reasonable enough time.

booldawg

Post by booldawg » Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:15 pm

allow 8 hours for a brew day. To give yourself a head start do as much as you can the night before. I aim to have the water treated and sitting in the boiler, grains weighed out and yeast starter on the go the night before.

Next morning I can just switch on the boiler to get the mash underway. Make notes, like how long your boiler takes to get the water to strike temp. etc.

ade1865

Post by ade1865 » Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:28 am

cheers guys. Moving forward slightly to brew number 2, would I be able to replace the cascade with First Gold? I'm knida thinkig of doing a comparison of hop flavours...

Looks like the family will be out on sunday, which is quickly becoming designated as B-day. pip pip.

ade1865

Post by ade1865 » Mon Aug 04, 2008 11:08 am

wow, thanks. just reading thru that page has probabaly saved me months of trying to understand it all :lol:

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