New to AG....first recipe advice...

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sstanier

New to AG....first recipe advice...

Post by sstanier » Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:17 pm

Hi,

I recently started home brewing and put together a Coopers Bitter kit which seemed to go very successfully....currently conditioning in the cupoard!

Anyway browsing this forum gave me a bit of a bug, especially when reading all the threads in this section and the equipment section on how to knock up the kit needed for AG brewing.

To cut a long story short I have cobbled together most of the kit needed for AG over the last few weeks (planning on posting in the Brewing Equipment section details of the build for those interested) and I am now preparing to get my first brew underway so I'm looking for recipe suggestions that would be suitable for my first attempt. I was thinking something nice and hoppy, but simple on the recipe front....an IPA perhaps?

All suggestions welcome!

Madbrewer

Post by Madbrewer » Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:27 pm

this one's worth a try ...

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it's not an IPA but it should be basic enough and yield good results.

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Post by flytact » Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:28 pm

The stickies in the recipe section should give you a good place to start.

There really is no easy or hard all grain if you do a single infusion mash, it's as simple as adding grain and water and hitting the right temperature.

That being said, don't go off and try to brew a 7.5% monster, stick with a good old 4-5% beer that you can be a bit inefficient on and still have it taste great.
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Post by Gurgeh » Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:28 pm

why not try something like '100% satisfaction' or 'styrian stunner'

you can search for various versions of the recipe, but you could keep it seriously simple:

5 Gallons

5Kg pale malt (66C mash)

boil 60 mins with 40g Goldings, add another 40g in the last 15 minutes alongside your whirlfoc tablet and add another 20g at the end of the hour boil when you turn the element off.

safale SO4 will do the job nicely, your local brewery might give you some yeast though...

you'll get a nice pale hoppy beer. you could use any hop at 4 or 5% AA and you'll get a well balanced hoppy beer.

sstanier

Post by sstanier » Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:12 pm

Cheers for the replies. I'm going to stick to something nice and easy and about 4-5%.....so if i'm a little inefficient I'll just end up with a bit of a session beer.

I like the sound of your little recipe there Gurgeh...nice and easy! Just need to order the supplies.....I hear Barley Bottom is the place to order grain and hops from....

Matt

Post by Matt » Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:14 pm

Another vote for 'Styrian Stunner' here. Or if you are looking for a non- citrusy brew I'd head for SiHoltye's 'Briar's Best' (check the prizewinning recipes sticky).

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Post by EportJake » Fri Aug 29, 2008 5:20 pm

I went for Briars Best as my first AG brew because it was minimum ingredients and seemed pretty uncomplicated (as indeed it was). Its matured 2 weeks and I've drunk half of it already. Quaff-tastic!
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alefric

Post by alefric » Fri Aug 29, 2008 5:37 pm

Just started myself....follow Gurgeh's advice....i did and it couldn't be easier with the added benefit of a short shopping list.....5KG pale malt ( i used Marris Otter ) and 100g of east kent goldings.

Good luck

Andrew

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Post by Aleman » Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:30 pm

Actually, I wouldn't go for a Pale beer as a first all grain but go for something that is on the darker end. Darker beers are more forgiving.

Instead of that 5KG of pale try

4600g Pale Malt
300g Crystal
100g Pale Chocolate

Then stick with the same Hops

It'll give you a deep red bitter, which will tolerate bad practice in the brewing process much better than a pale beer which really doesn't have a lot of places to hide errors.

sstanier

Post by sstanier » Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:38 pm

Lots of food for thought, cheers for the replies. I'm going to order some grain and hops next week.

Is it worth buying a bit of a stash as a beginner or to just buy what I need for each brew (which Barley Bottom seem willing to put together for around a tenner a brew) for my first few brews?

If its the stash route what do you guys suggest I order initially to get me going on a range of different things?

Funny really, just got my head around all the different equipment needed and processes involved and now I'm just as confused as before but over what ingredients to order! Good brain excercise in my idle moments during the day though!

booldawg

Post by booldawg » Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:04 pm

I suppose it depends on how frequently you intend on brewing. I've never bought a 25kg sack of Maris Otter, but if you're brewing say twice a month then I guess its worth it. Also storage space is an issue.

As my LHBS is about 15 miles away then I guess I can afford to do the odd emergency run if I'm desperate for something even though planning ahead is a good idea.

I'm guessing that the home brew business will start to get busy round about now as alot of brewers who don't have the luxury of temperature control tend not to brew over the summer months and kick off their season in September. However, we all brewed through this summer!

Hops seem to have a fairly long shelf life, especially unopened bags. You can freeze hops once open which prolongs the life.

Swings and roundabouts. I tend to plan 3 or 4 brews ahead and just buy what I need for them.

adm

Post by adm » Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:45 pm

sstanier wrote:Lots of food for thought, cheers for the replies. I'm going to order some grain and hops next week.

Is it worth buying a bit of a stash as a beginner or to just buy what I need for each brew (which Barley Bottom seem willing to put together for around a tenner a brew) for my first few brews?

If its the stash route what do you guys suggest I order initially to get me going on a range of different things?

Funny really, just got my head around all the different equipment needed and processes involved and now I'm just as confused as before but over what ingredients to order! Good brain excercise in my idle moments during the day though!
Well......I recall that it's the same postage from Paul at Barley Bottom for anything from 3 to 23kg - so you might as well order more malt while you're at it.

If you got 15kg of Maris, a couple of kilos of Crystal, a kilo or so of chocolate, plus anything else that takes your fancy and a few different types of hops, you'll be set for a few brews. Don't forget some yeast and a pack of 10 protafloc tablets too! I keep my yeast and hops in the freezer, and the alt in a plastic dustbin (as it's a mouse magnet).

ade1865

Post by ade1865 » Sat Aug 30, 2008 12:51 am

sstainer-its all very mind boggling, but just remember, after you've done yer 1st AG brew it all makes a lot more sense. don't worry about it and have fun.

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Re: New to AG....first recipe advice...

Post by Reg » Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:28 pm

sstanier wrote:Hi,

I recently started home brewing and put together a Coopers Bitter kit which seemed to go very successfully....currently conditioning in the cupoard!

Anyway browsing this forum gave me a bit of a bug, especially when reading all the threads in this section and the equipment section on how to knock up the kit needed for AG brewing.

To cut a long story short I have cobbled together most of the kit needed for AG over the last few weeks (planning on posting in the Brewing Equipment section details of the build for those interested) and I am now preparing to get my first brew underway so I'm looking for recipe suggestions that would be suitable for my first attempt. I was thinking something nice and hoppy, but simple on the recipe front....an IPA perhaps?

All suggestions welcome!
Buy a demijohn and experiment with a couple of gallon brews first. That's what I do when I'm trying to compose recipes.

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Post by Aleman » Sun Aug 31, 2008 7:01 pm

sstanier wrote:Is it worth buying a bit of a stash as a beginner or to just buy what I need for each brew (which Barley Bottom seem willing to put together for around a tenner a brew) for my first few brews?
I'm a bit of a stasher currently I have

57Kg Warminster Pale Malt
12Kg Weyerman Pilsner Malt
25Kg Warminster Lager Malt
12Kg Warminster Caramalt

And thats before I start Adding the Adjuncts :o

Its the same with hops as well.

For starting, I would suggest you buy enough kits from Reaper to allow you to get 4 brews under your belt . . .Then you can let them all age. If you make the first one a session type beer, you can start drinking that while the others are aging.

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