What would you ask Brewdog?

[adm]

There's a 3 page article on BrewDog in this month's "Brew Your Own" magazine.....along with clone recipes for Punk IPA (says Columbus, Ahtanum and Amarillo), Hardcore IPA (Simcoe, Warrior, Chinook, Amarillo) and Riptide stout.

[mysterio]

to the hops listed on the website for punk ipa, you can add simcoe. they have recently changed how they add the hops for the punk, but its chinook and ahtanum at the start of the boil, then after 30 mins the same again, then when the boil is switched off a mix of chinook, ahtanum, N S and simcoe go in for 30 mins and for the last 10 mins those 4 go in again!

Interesting, any ideas on quantities here.

[Stoat on a rope]

that sounds interesting il have to get hold of a copy of that!

ive got the quantities writen down, but only if you want to make 53'000 litres of it haha. im going to scale it down and just work out the % of hops.

we added 4kg chinook and 2.5 kg ahtanum, then the same again. then the last 2 additions of hops was 5.5kg chinook and 2.5 kg of each ahtanum, nelson sauvin and simcoe divided into 2 equal batches. that final amount used to be added all together at the end of the boil and left for 30mins but recently they changed it because they wanted to get more out of the aroma.

they really are still perfecting all of their beers, i would say none of them have a set in stone recipe yet.

[mysterio]

Great info thanks, So here's something like what the recipe would look like for 25L. Just ignore the gravity and malt quantity for now thats just a rough guess

Punk IPA

Type: All Grain
Date: 13/12/2009
Batch Size: 25.00 L
Boil Size: 28.62 L
Boil Time: 60 min
0 Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00

Ingredients

Amount Item Type % or IBU
6.60 kg Low Colour MO UK (2.0 EBC) Grain 100.00 %
18.87 gm Chinook [13.00 %] (60 min) Hops 22.2 IBU
11.79 gm Ahtanum [6.00 %] (60 min) Hops 6.4 IBU
18.87 gm Chinook [13.00 %] (30 min) Hops 17.1 IBU
11.79 gm Ahtanum [6.00 %] (30 min) Hops 4.9 IBU
25.90 gm Chinook [13.00 %] (0 min) Hops -
11.80 gm Simcoe [13.00 %] (0 min) Hops -
11.80 gm Ahtanum [6.00 %] (0 min) Hops -
11.80 gm Nelson Sauvin [12.00 %] (0 min) Hops -

Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.059 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.015 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 5.74 %
Bitterness: 50.6 IBU Calories: 90 cal/l
Est Color: 5.1 EBC Color: Color

[chazzb]

What are they going to do when they get to the end of Sam Calagione's book and, effectively, run out of his ideas to steal?

[Stoat on a rope]

Type: All Grain
Date: 13/12/2009
Batch Size: 25.00 L
Boil Size: 28.62 L
Boil Time: 60 min
0 Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00

Ingredients

Amount Item Type % or IBU
6.60 kg Low Colour MO UK (2.0 EBC) Grain 100.00 %
18.87 gm Chinook [13.00 %] (60 min) Hops 22.2 IBU
11.79 gm Ahtanum [6.00 %] (60 min) Hops 6.4 IBU
18.87 gm Chinook [13.00 %] (30 min) Hops 17.1 IBU
11.79 gm Ahtanum [6.00 %] (30 min) Hops 4.9 IBU
25.90 gm Chinook [13.00 %] (0 min) Hops -
11.80 gm Simcoe [13.00 %] (0 min) Hops -
11.80 gm Ahtanum [6.00 %] (0 min) Hops -
11.80 gm Nelson Sauvin [12.00 %] (0 min) Hops -

Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.059 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.015 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 5.74 %
Bitterness: 50.6 IBU Calories: 90 cal/l
Est Color: 5.1 EBC Color: Color

that looks pretty good, you have done what ive not been bothered to do yet haha.

i would try get the ibu's up above 60 though, their website says 65. but then their website says the OG is 1.052, and the gravity we were aiming for on saturday was 1.056 (the first batch was 1.059 so we were trying to get 1.053 on the second batch to even it out)

i think i will give it a go at some point, but of those 4 hops ive only got Nelson Sauvin at the moment.

[mysterio]

I've never seen Ahtanum available to buy in this country either.

The IBUs are not adjusted for alpha acids so that recipe is just for a rough idea of quantities.

[Chunk1234]

Out of pure interest, how did you manage to visit and help out? Did you just ask and they said yes, or is it some sort of scheme or something that they run? Thanks for the info by the way, very interesting.

[mysterio]

Yes I was wondering that too

[Stoat on a rope]

they had some new zealand and american hops ive never even heard of. the ahtanums smelt amazing i wouldnt mind getting a hold of some.

i met the brewdog md, James, through a friend of mine that designed their website. got chatting to him about homebrewing and he invited me up! helps who you know in this world eh i think they just like having some one come up and work for free every now and then.

[196osh]

i think they just like having some one come up and work for free every now and then.

I can testify to that. Good guys though.

[Stoat on a rope]

I can testify to that. Good guys though.

i know someone on here had been there before, was it you?

[Chunk1234]

Nice one, wouldn't mind a trip up there myself some time. Met James at a tasting a few weeks back and he seemed a genuinely nice bloke.

[196osh]

i know someone on here had been there before, was it you?

Twas indeed.

[Stoat on a rope]

i think they have had a bit more shiney installed recently you might not have seen, its looking pretty impressive.