Hogs back Hop Garden Gold [Hop] recipe

[spencerwood]

Hi,

The Brewery now just call this Hop, but as you can imagine, searching for a recipe for a beer call Hop is a real mission.

I've found ones for TEA and Rip Snorter but it would be good to find a recipe for this one. I could use the Beer Engine to start with TEA, make it slightly stronger to match the 4.6% spec, slighly darker and slighly more hoppy and mash at the lower temperature end but to have a recipe that someone else has attempted would be brilliant. A yeast suggestion would also be a bonus


Many thanks



Spencer

[Andy]

Hop is a golden beer so making it darker than TEA would be interesting

Hop uses lots of fuggles and I guess uses virtually all pale malt with perhaps just a dash of crystal.

On the yeast front they use the Hook Norton strain.

[spencerwood]

Hi Andy,

Thanks for your input. Hop is lighter than TEA, thats good to know else I would have made a bit of a blunder, thanks:-)

I did the tour once and they said they get their yeast from Hook Norton - the home brewing shops unfortunely dont sell this so any ideas what I could use instead?

Thanks

Spencer

[spencerwood]

I've just created this in the Beer Engine - I would welcome your thoughts.

PALE 4700
Crystal (pale) 250
Torrified Wheat 250 (4.8%)

Fuggle 90 mins 50g
Golding 90 mins 15g
Fuggle 30 mins 25g
Fuggle 15 mins 25g

4.6%, 12 EBC, 49 EBU

This compared to the TEA recipe that I got from these forums which uses more goldings and less fuggles to give

4.2%, 20 EBC, 40 EBU.

So the HOP recipe is slightly lighter in colour, and more fuggles dominated (as you suggested) with a higher bitterness.

I just need to sort out the yeast and then jobs a goodun hopefully


Spencer

[Andy]

Look what I found -> http://www.thehomebrewforum.co.uk/viewt ... 144#p18144

And regarding yeast, did you see my post on your other thread about contacting the brewery to obtain some of their live yeast ?

[Andy]

Popped into the brewery tonight to pickup a 3.5 pint takeout of HOP (research you see).

Here's a piccy to show the colour

[spencerwood]

Excellent work - I'll have a fiddle with that recipe you found in beer engine and see how it compares. Dry hopping is something I've not done so far, so I'll research that one shortly.

Cheers


Spencer

[Andy]

Rather than dry hopping you could just steep some hops for 20 mins or so after turning off the boiler (would need more than 8g though)

[spencerwood]

I think I'm now leaning more towards the recipe you linked to in the other forum. It has EBC 8 and EBU 44 although I've not added the dry hopped hops into beer engine as its not possible to do that and in theory from what I've read, dry hopping shouldn't increase bitterness anyway. I usually do a secondary fermentation for a week to help with clearing, but I could cut this short to three days and add the 8g of hops when transfering from primary to secondary. Then when kegging, I'll need to just syphon through a sieve when transfering to the keg to stop any bits of the hops ending up in the barrel.

Have I fully grasped the concept of dry hopping? Most recipes I've ever done add hops at the beginning and then more towards the end to stop the aromas getting destroyed. Once I even added hops at 80 degress during the cool down. I guess adding hops to the secondary fermenting bin just takes this concept one stage further?

Dry hopping - is there a risk of causing infection as hops straight out of the packet wont get a boil - would it be safer to just bung say 20g in at 80 degrees like I've done before.


Spencer

[Eadweard]

Hogs back don't dry hop any of their beers, though the end of boil steep is used a lot.

[Andy]

Cheers Ed, useful info.

(trying to work out which local brewery you used to work at certainly not HBB though from comments in your blog)

[Stonechat]

From looking at Ed's blog he's a big fan of "HOPS AND GLORY". Top man!

[booldawg]

I buy bits and pieces from HBB now and then. All they sell is Pale, Crystal, Fuggles and Goldings. Not sure if this points to the fact all their beers are brewed from only 2 malts and 2 hops or if thats all they sell to the home brewer?

[Eadweard]

They use nearly all Fuggles (TEA is all fuggles for example), then some goldings and only very small amounts of other hops.

[spencerwood]

I've just transferred from primary to secondard. Currently at 4.0% so just a little more fermation to go. I had a swig from the hydrometer tube and I can report that it is incredibly close to the real thing.


Spencer