Extract Summer Lightning- 60 min boil- Advice please

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Manx Guy

Extract Summer Lightning- 60 min boil- Advice please

Post by Manx Guy » Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:45 pm

Hi,

I'm wishing to attempt a Summer Lightning clone using the recipe from GW's book...

However I'll be using Liquid Malt extract and the tins are 1.6kg in size so to use two full cans (and avoid measuring a messy liquid) I have adjusted the final volume and quantities of hops...

the final volume will be 19.5 litre (rounded down from 19.67l)

I will add 40g of the boil hops instead of 38g as stated for a 19litre batch size.

I have decided to only boil one of the cans in 13 litres of water to give me a gravity of approx. 1035-1038 increasing hop utilisation to a point where I can reduce the boil time to 60 mins from 90 as stated in the book.

By my calculations I should acheive a beer with similar (if not identical) Gravity and bitterness by using this method and saving on energy &time.

I plan to add the remaining can of LME direct to the FV and rinsing the can out with the boiled wort or hot water from the kettle (as I would if making beer from a kit)...
then once cool checking the gravity and toping up to the final volume and pitching my yeast (starter).

I welcoem comment and advice (of a constructive nature)....
:)
Many thanks !

Slainte!
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Thirsty Paul

Re: Extract Summer Lightning- 60 min boil- Advice please

Post by Thirsty Paul » Sat Feb 20, 2010 6:13 pm

Hi,
I made the Summer Lightning from GW's book yesterday using LME (4kg) for a 25 litre batch, remaining recipie as per Grahams instructions (boiled all 25 Litres for 60mins with Hop quantities altered to suit) and Nottingham yeast. Its currently going great guns (out the top of the FV). Really looking forward to this one, just hoping that the weather is a bit warmer before drinking time, at the end of the day its a beer that cries out for a beer garden!
I can't see any obvious problems with you plan, good luck and keep us informed of you progress.
Paul

Manx Guy

Re: Extract Summer Lightning- 60 min boil- Advice please

Post by Manx Guy » Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:07 am

Hi Paul!

Thanks for your reply... Thats helpful, I will get this one on on the 8th March, after a week away with work in the Bahamas I'm doing a 50 hour week and Monday will be my first day off...

I'll get the yeast starter going later in the week and take it from there...
:)
Slainte!
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Manx Guy

Re: Extract Summer Lightning- 60 min boil- Advice please

Post by Manx Guy » Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:09 pm

Another update on this....

I'm thinking of using the hopback yeast from a bottle of summer lightning...
I've made starters before and understand the basics of the process...

Has anyone had any experience of doing this?
Would you recomend it?
Whats is the yeast like? what temp should I ferment at and does it need any special care (over SO-4 nottingham etc)?

Many thanks in advance.

Slainte!
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Re: Extract Summer Lightning- 60 min boil- Advice please

Post by CrownCap » Tue Mar 09, 2010 2:29 pm

This is looking like a popular brew at the moment - I'm planning the same for this Sunday (provided the ingredients arrive on time)! Will be boiling the full volume and using WLP005 if I have time to get it going otherwise I've some Nottingham on standby.

No answers to your questions I'm afraid :oops:
Next Up : Something for the summer
Primary : Nothing
Secondary / Conditioning : Nothing
Drinking : Mosaic IPA

Up the blades

Re: Extract Summer Lightning- 60 min boil- Advice please

Post by Up the blades » Tue Mar 09, 2010 3:03 pm

I to have seen this in gw's book, its on my todo list. Ur off to the bahamas through work . . . . I want ur job ! ! And paul u could always put ur summer lightening to 1 side and forget bout it till summer. . Get another brew on in mean time. A quick conditioning 1 :)

Thirsty Paul

Re: Extract Summer Lightning- 60 min boil- Advice please

Post by Thirsty Paul » Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:11 pm

I suspect that my lightning will be getting drunk in the summer (due to go to sunnier, but not so nice climates for a couple of months in the next few week's) so will be looking forward to getting stuck in to the lightning when I get back. 40 pints of Directors clone to go first though. Good luck to you all on this brew, COME ON THE SUMMER!
Thirtsty Paul

Manx Guy

Re: Extract Summer Lightning- 60 min boil- Advice please

Post by Manx Guy » Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:20 am

Ha ha

I dont think I'll chance this with the captured yeast for my first attempt... I'll use a nottingham starter...
I'm going to get one more batch of Lager out before this goes in the FV...
:shock:
I fancied trying a go at a Dunkel using and adapted kit method scrounged of an Aussie website...

Upthe blades : The Bahamas... Tell me about it... It was a tough assignment but someone had to do it...
Not bad for a Lad from Netheredge eh... ? lol
:)
Good luck!

Keep the post alive with your brewdays etc. I'll look out for updates with interest!
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Re: Extract Summer Lightning- 60 min boil- Advice please

Post by Fuggled Mind » Sun Mar 14, 2010 10:18 am

I've also done Graham Wheeler's Summer Lightning. unfortunately with the malt extract caramelising under intense heat, you never get the light colour of the original. Perhaps not boiling one tin of extract is the way to go.

Does produce a very tasty summer ale though. Though not authentic, I used US-05 yeast
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Bigveees

Re: Extract Summer Lightning- 60 min boil- Advice please

Post by Bigveees » Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:22 pm

Surely you would boil the actual extract on it own! Especially if your wanting to add the hops - That's insane

djavet

Re: Extract Summer Lightning- 60 min boil- Advice please

Post by djavet » Fri Apr 09, 2010 6:27 am

Sounds good and tasty. I remember the beer (i'm in Switzerland).
could you share the recipe from G. Wheeler, please?

Hoppy regards,
Dom

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Re: Extract Summer Lightning- 60 min boil- Advice please

Post by fractureman » Fri Apr 09, 2010 6:14 pm

erm buy the book, the reciepe is in there ;)
keg 1 : (Drinking) : Amarillo extract brew
keg 2 : (Conditioning) : Summer Ale extract
keg 3 : (Conditioning) : Lightening extract Goldings only
keg 4 : (Conditioning) : Lightening etxract

FV1 : FV2 :
Bottled: Brewferm Diabolo, Brewferm frambois
next up: coppers stout:)

djavet

Re: Extract Summer Lightning- 60 min boil- Advice please

Post by djavet » Fri Apr 09, 2010 9:20 pm

fractureman wrote:erm buy the book, the reciepe is in there ;)
I will if you give me the book title :D

Dom

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Re: Extract Summer Lightning- 60 min boil- Advice please

Post by HighHops » Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:42 pm

Dom

The recipe is in Graham Wheeler's 'Brew your own british real ale'.

Over 100 recipes. An essential along with Dave Line's 'Brewing beers like those you buy'.

Good luck.

djavet

Re: Extract Summer Lightning- 60 min boil- Advice please

Post by djavet » Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:30 pm

Thx a lot! I just check on Amazon, but I can't see the recepie in the index... no hopback.
It that in another edition?
-> http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/reader/18524 ... eader-page

Still searching the recipe.

BTW, I order the book. look fantastic.
Dom

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