AG #05 - B.O.R.I.S.
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AG #05 - B.O.R.I.S.
As per the thread in the recipes forum, I'm attempting to tackle BORIS
Why Boris? It's a Russian Imperial Stout. With an Oatmeal punch. From The Wire:
Sergei 'Serge' Malatov: [sighs] "Boris... why always Boris?"
The B is to emphasise the "Brick Sh*thouse" (Yorks phrase) of body this brew should pack.
Bricksh*tter Oatmeal RIS (B.O.R.I.S)
Batch Size 18L
Grist Bill
8561g Maris Otter Pale Malt (79%)
542g 60L Crystal Malt (5%)
624g Roasted Barley (5.76%)
650g Malted Oats (6%)
325g Torrefied Wheat (3%)
134g Dark Chocolate Malt (1.24%)
Thanks pdtnc, I whizzed the oats in my blender on the 'grind' setting, hopefully means the mash can have a stab at them.
Hops
Challenger 6.5% Leaf, 122g @ 60m (70.42IBU)
Challenger 7.0% Leaf, 90g @ 60m (55.95IBU)
Worcester Goldings 6% Pellet, 30g @ 15m (5.5IBU)
Mash
90m @ 65ºC
Boil
60m
Yeast
3 x Sachet US05. Rehydrate in boiled cooled water. Ferment @ 20ºC
Bottling
2 vols CO2 (batch prime 86.9g sugar)
Mature for 3-6 months
Stats
Total IBU 131.9
BU:GU Ratio 1.01
Target OG 1.130
Target FG 1.033
ABV 12.77%
Colour 53.3SRM
Grain bill weighed out ready for the morning.
You can't even see the 8.5KG of Maris Otter underneath the rockstar grist. But bear in mind that's a 25L bucket and I'm only aiming for 18L at the end...
Grain bill by The Grice is Right, on Flickr
Yep, that's at /least/ 20L - I'm crossing my fingers for my poor mash tun
Not as impressive mixed by The Grice is Right, on Flickr
That's it for tonight. HLT is on a timer, will be ready with its 31L of mash water when I wake up.......
Updated after it's safely in the FV. Oh what a mission this was.
Probably where it all went wrong, the mash:
A monster mash by The Grice is Right, on Flickr
Theres something wrong with my HLT, I keep tripping the thermostat. But this brewday was jinxed anyway.
Doughed in (took a while) and set the mash going at 65ºC:
65°C by The Grice is Right, on Flickr
The first runnings were ludicrously inky. Thanks to my phone camera for focusing on the kettle element way out of shot:
First runnings by The Grice is Right, on Flickr
This is where my general happiness with the brewday ended. A corrected 1.080 on the first batch. Out by about 40 points! I suspect the oats were the culprit.
Missed the boat by The Grice is Right, on Flickr
Dreading what was to come, I started filling the kettle... it was very black, much more so than the robust porter I did 3 brews previously.
Kettling time by The Grice is Right, on Flickr
I thought my porter was black, but this... by The Grice is Right, on Flickr
At this point it turned from a brewday into something I can only describe as 'an extended labour birthing the antichrist'. The second batch came out at 1.060... Because I was soooo far out, I had to boil the wort down to get closer to my intended OG. I had a 4L pan (the biggest I had) boiling down a further batch sparge to match the kettle as it reduced (2 pans worth), and then when I thought I was getting somewhere the element cut out on the boiler. Disaster!
I decided I could bypass the thermostat on my HLT, after all it actually had a better element, a 3KW immersion jobbie. While I was doing that, the boiler came back on. Hmm. Left it 5 mins and it cut out again. Something wasn't right!
Drained the contents (after taking so long to avoid hot side aeration, I might as well have gone swimming in it now), to find the element looking like this:
Rubber ducked by The Grice is Right, on Flickr
It took some serious elbow grease but I was determined to get it back up and running again. So, boiling wort sat steaming in a corner, I set to it. Eventually we were back up and running:
Take 2 by The Grice is Right, on Flickr
Boiled for another hour or so and we weren't /too/ far off the pre-boil OG so in went the (large quantity of) bittering hops. In this case, over 200g of Challenger:
Hoptastic by The Grice is Right, on Flickr
At this point I'd been going at it 10 hours or so, so I treat myself to a pint of AG#02, a robust porter:
Tightrope Walker by The Grice is Right, on Flickr
Boil done (with 30g of Worcester Goldings thrown in at 15m), chilled, and we had a bit over 16 litres in the kettle.
Post chill volume by The Grice is Right, on Flickr
Took a hydrometer reading and that was a lot more like it - getting towards 1.125, so only 5 points off target. Never seen a hydrometer float so high before so I took two pictures!
1.123+ OG by The Grice is Right, on Flickr
High gravity by The Grice is Right, on Flickr
I'd prepared my army of beasties ready to chomp through that mountain of sugar, 3 sachets of US05:
3 Sachets of US05 by The Grice is Right, on Flickr
Transferred to the FV via aeration, and this stuff really was treacle, it was great!
Sticky mess by The Grice is Right, on Flickr
The only problem was all the trub, those hops certainly soaked up a pile of wort
Still, safely in the FV now, about 13-14 hours after I started (good job I had other stuff to do at the same time), fitted a blowoff tube and let the yeast do its work @ 20ºC:
10+L away by The Grice is Right, on Flickr
Down to 10/11L, ah well, it will be worth it (and fit in a crate I can hide somewhere for a year.......)
Why Boris? It's a Russian Imperial Stout. With an Oatmeal punch. From The Wire:
Sergei 'Serge' Malatov: [sighs] "Boris... why always Boris?"
The B is to emphasise the "Brick Sh*thouse" (Yorks phrase) of body this brew should pack.
Bricksh*tter Oatmeal RIS (B.O.R.I.S)
Batch Size 18L
Grist Bill
8561g Maris Otter Pale Malt (79%)
542g 60L Crystal Malt (5%)
624g Roasted Barley (5.76%)
650g Malted Oats (6%)
325g Torrefied Wheat (3%)
134g Dark Chocolate Malt (1.24%)
Thanks pdtnc, I whizzed the oats in my blender on the 'grind' setting, hopefully means the mash can have a stab at them.
Hops
Challenger 6.5% Leaf, 122g @ 60m (70.42IBU)
Challenger 7.0% Leaf, 90g @ 60m (55.95IBU)
Worcester Goldings 6% Pellet, 30g @ 15m (5.5IBU)
Mash
90m @ 65ºC
Boil
60m
Yeast
3 x Sachet US05. Rehydrate in boiled cooled water. Ferment @ 20ºC
Bottling
2 vols CO2 (batch prime 86.9g sugar)
Mature for 3-6 months
Stats
Total IBU 131.9
BU:GU Ratio 1.01
Target OG 1.130
Target FG 1.033
ABV 12.77%
Colour 53.3SRM
Grain bill weighed out ready for the morning.
You can't even see the 8.5KG of Maris Otter underneath the rockstar grist. But bear in mind that's a 25L bucket and I'm only aiming for 18L at the end...
Grain bill by The Grice is Right, on Flickr
Yep, that's at /least/ 20L - I'm crossing my fingers for my poor mash tun
Not as impressive mixed by The Grice is Right, on Flickr
That's it for tonight. HLT is on a timer, will be ready with its 31L of mash water when I wake up.......
Updated after it's safely in the FV. Oh what a mission this was.
Probably where it all went wrong, the mash:
A monster mash by The Grice is Right, on Flickr
Theres something wrong with my HLT, I keep tripping the thermostat. But this brewday was jinxed anyway.
Doughed in (took a while) and set the mash going at 65ºC:
65°C by The Grice is Right, on Flickr
The first runnings were ludicrously inky. Thanks to my phone camera for focusing on the kettle element way out of shot:
First runnings by The Grice is Right, on Flickr
This is where my general happiness with the brewday ended. A corrected 1.080 on the first batch. Out by about 40 points! I suspect the oats were the culprit.
Missed the boat by The Grice is Right, on Flickr
Dreading what was to come, I started filling the kettle... it was very black, much more so than the robust porter I did 3 brews previously.
Kettling time by The Grice is Right, on Flickr
I thought my porter was black, but this... by The Grice is Right, on Flickr
At this point it turned from a brewday into something I can only describe as 'an extended labour birthing the antichrist'. The second batch came out at 1.060... Because I was soooo far out, I had to boil the wort down to get closer to my intended OG. I had a 4L pan (the biggest I had) boiling down a further batch sparge to match the kettle as it reduced (2 pans worth), and then when I thought I was getting somewhere the element cut out on the boiler. Disaster!
I decided I could bypass the thermostat on my HLT, after all it actually had a better element, a 3KW immersion jobbie. While I was doing that, the boiler came back on. Hmm. Left it 5 mins and it cut out again. Something wasn't right!
Drained the contents (after taking so long to avoid hot side aeration, I might as well have gone swimming in it now), to find the element looking like this:
Rubber ducked by The Grice is Right, on Flickr
It took some serious elbow grease but I was determined to get it back up and running again. So, boiling wort sat steaming in a corner, I set to it. Eventually we were back up and running:
Take 2 by The Grice is Right, on Flickr
Boiled for another hour or so and we weren't /too/ far off the pre-boil OG so in went the (large quantity of) bittering hops. In this case, over 200g of Challenger:
Hoptastic by The Grice is Right, on Flickr
At this point I'd been going at it 10 hours or so, so I treat myself to a pint of AG#02, a robust porter:
Tightrope Walker by The Grice is Right, on Flickr
Boil done (with 30g of Worcester Goldings thrown in at 15m), chilled, and we had a bit over 16 litres in the kettle.
Post chill volume by The Grice is Right, on Flickr
Took a hydrometer reading and that was a lot more like it - getting towards 1.125, so only 5 points off target. Never seen a hydrometer float so high before so I took two pictures!
1.123+ OG by The Grice is Right, on Flickr
High gravity by The Grice is Right, on Flickr
I'd prepared my army of beasties ready to chomp through that mountain of sugar, 3 sachets of US05:
3 Sachets of US05 by The Grice is Right, on Flickr
Transferred to the FV via aeration, and this stuff really was treacle, it was great!
Sticky mess by The Grice is Right, on Flickr
The only problem was all the trub, those hops certainly soaked up a pile of wort
Still, safely in the FV now, about 13-14 hours after I started (good job I had other stuff to do at the same time), fitted a blowoff tube and let the yeast do its work @ 20ºC:
10+L away by The Grice is Right, on Flickr
Down to 10/11L, ah well, it will be worth it (and fit in a crate I can hide somewhere for a year.......)
Last edited by Gricey on Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:00 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Fermenting: FV1: AG#18 English IPA FV2: AG#19 Summer Dunkelweizen
Conditioning: AG#16 Chimay Reddish, AG#17 Amarillo Brillo
Maturing: AG#05 B.O.R.I.S.: Bricksh*tter Oatmeal Russian Imperial Stout - ready 01/10/11, AG#07 Monkey Shot! IAPA - ready 16/06/11 maybe
Drinking: AG#11, AG#14, AG#15
Planning: AG#20 Summer Hefeweisen, AG#21 Saison Brettre, AG#22 Simcoe Poisoning Red IPA, AG#23 Oatmeal Stout
Fermenting: FV1: AG#18 English IPA FV2: AG#19 Summer Dunkelweizen
Conditioning: AG#16 Chimay Reddish, AG#17 Amarillo Brillo
Maturing: AG#05 B.O.R.I.S.: Bricksh*tter Oatmeal Russian Imperial Stout - ready 01/10/11, AG#07 Monkey Shot! IAPA - ready 16/06/11 maybe
Drinking: AG#11, AG#14, AG#15
Planning: AG#20 Summer Hefeweisen, AG#21 Saison Brettre, AG#22 Simcoe Poisoning Red IPA, AG#23 Oatmeal Stout
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Re: AG #05 - B.O.R.I.S.
Oh dear ... miles out, 1.080 corrected... advice if anyone has it! Still got the second batch to go yet.
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Fermenting: FV1: AG#18 English IPA FV2: AG#19 Summer Dunkelweizen
Conditioning: AG#16 Chimay Reddish, AG#17 Amarillo Brillo
Maturing: AG#05 B.O.R.I.S.: Bricksh*tter Oatmeal Russian Imperial Stout - ready 01/10/11, AG#07 Monkey Shot! IAPA - ready 16/06/11 maybe
Drinking: AG#11, AG#14, AG#15
Planning: AG#20 Summer Hefeweisen, AG#21 Saison Brettre, AG#22 Simcoe Poisoning Red IPA, AG#23 Oatmeal Stout
Fermenting: FV1: AG#18 English IPA FV2: AG#19 Summer Dunkelweizen
Conditioning: AG#16 Chimay Reddish, AG#17 Amarillo Brillo
Maturing: AG#05 B.O.R.I.S.: Bricksh*tter Oatmeal Russian Imperial Stout - ready 01/10/11, AG#07 Monkey Shot! IAPA - ready 16/06/11 maybe
Drinking: AG#11, AG#14, AG#15
Planning: AG#20 Summer Hefeweisen, AG#21 Saison Brettre, AG#22 Simcoe Poisoning Red IPA, AG#23 Oatmeal Stout
Re: AG #05 - B.O.R.I.S.
bump it up with malt extract or boil for longer to evaporate some off before you add hops .
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Re: AG #05 - B.O.R.I.S.
I do have some emergency DME... don't really want to go down that route though... but if I did how much do I add to add a given number of points?smdjoachim wrote:bump it up with malt extract or boil for longer to evaporate some off before you add hops .
I'm trying to boil down and oversparge as pdtnc mentioned in my other thread, but we will see where that goes. I only have 6L of pans for the hob to boil more at once...
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Fermenting: FV1: AG#18 English IPA FV2: AG#19 Summer Dunkelweizen
Conditioning: AG#16 Chimay Reddish, AG#17 Amarillo Brillo
Maturing: AG#05 B.O.R.I.S.: Bricksh*tter Oatmeal Russian Imperial Stout - ready 01/10/11, AG#07 Monkey Shot! IAPA - ready 16/06/11 maybe
Drinking: AG#11, AG#14, AG#15
Planning: AG#20 Summer Hefeweisen, AG#21 Saison Brettre, AG#22 Simcoe Poisoning Red IPA, AG#23 Oatmeal Stout
Fermenting: FV1: AG#18 English IPA FV2: AG#19 Summer Dunkelweizen
Conditioning: AG#16 Chimay Reddish, AG#17 Amarillo Brillo
Maturing: AG#05 B.O.R.I.S.: Bricksh*tter Oatmeal Russian Imperial Stout - ready 01/10/11, AG#07 Monkey Shot! IAPA - ready 16/06/11 maybe
Drinking: AG#11, AG#14, AG#15
Planning: AG#20 Summer Hefeweisen, AG#21 Saison Brettre, AG#22 Simcoe Poisoning Red IPA, AG#23 Oatmeal Stout
Re: AG #05 - B.O.R.I.S.
Is that reading temperature corrected? it would add a good bit to it but still be a fair bit short of your target!
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Re: AG #05 - B.O.R.I.S.
Sadly yes...
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Fermenting: FV1: AG#18 English IPA FV2: AG#19 Summer Dunkelweizen
Conditioning: AG#16 Chimay Reddish, AG#17 Amarillo Brillo
Maturing: AG#05 B.O.R.I.S.: Bricksh*tter Oatmeal Russian Imperial Stout - ready 01/10/11, AG#07 Monkey Shot! IAPA - ready 16/06/11 maybe
Drinking: AG#11, AG#14, AG#15
Planning: AG#20 Summer Hefeweisen, AG#21 Saison Brettre, AG#22 Simcoe Poisoning Red IPA, AG#23 Oatmeal Stout
Fermenting: FV1: AG#18 English IPA FV2: AG#19 Summer Dunkelweizen
Conditioning: AG#16 Chimay Reddish, AG#17 Amarillo Brillo
Maturing: AG#05 B.O.R.I.S.: Bricksh*tter Oatmeal Russian Imperial Stout - ready 01/10/11, AG#07 Monkey Shot! IAPA - ready 16/06/11 maybe
Drinking: AG#11, AG#14, AG#15
Planning: AG#20 Summer Hefeweisen, AG#21 Saison Brettre, AG#22 Simcoe Poisoning Red IPA, AG#23 Oatmeal Stout
Re: AG #05 - B.O.R.I.S.
If you have some more grain you could mash that with your 1080 wort
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Re: AG #05 - B.O.R.I.S.
Maybe 3kg of MO/Lager kicking about. The whole lot is down to 1.080 now in the kettle, im taking extra sparges from the tun, boiling them on the hob (4L pan), chucking them in the kettle while that cracks on. Good job the mrs is working late today thats a fact
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Fermenting: FV1: AG#18 English IPA FV2: AG#19 Summer Dunkelweizen
Conditioning: AG#16 Chimay Reddish, AG#17 Amarillo Brillo
Maturing: AG#05 B.O.R.I.S.: Bricksh*tter Oatmeal Russian Imperial Stout - ready 01/10/11, AG#07 Monkey Shot! IAPA - ready 16/06/11 maybe
Drinking: AG#11, AG#14, AG#15
Planning: AG#20 Summer Hefeweisen, AG#21 Saison Brettre, AG#22 Simcoe Poisoning Red IPA, AG#23 Oatmeal Stout
Fermenting: FV1: AG#18 English IPA FV2: AG#19 Summer Dunkelweizen
Conditioning: AG#16 Chimay Reddish, AG#17 Amarillo Brillo
Maturing: AG#05 B.O.R.I.S.: Bricksh*tter Oatmeal Russian Imperial Stout - ready 01/10/11, AG#07 Monkey Shot! IAPA - ready 16/06/11 maybe
Drinking: AG#11, AG#14, AG#15
Planning: AG#20 Summer Hefeweisen, AG#21 Saison Brettre, AG#22 Simcoe Poisoning Red IPA, AG#23 Oatmeal Stout
Re: AG #05 - B.O.R.I.S.
Taking extra sparges from the tun will only dilute your 1080.You need to add something that is greater than 1080 to increase the gravity ie extract.
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Re: AG #05 - B.O.R.I.S.
I'm taking that sparge and boiling on hob til its the same as what is in the kettle (take 2 readings).
May be a show stopper now, think my boiler element has gone pop. I could technically bypass the thermostat on my HLT as that has an 3kW immersion heater (rather than this small one in the bruheat) but I don't want to go there.
Crap............
May be a show stopper now, think my boiler element has gone pop. I could technically bypass the thermostat on my HLT as that has an 3kW immersion heater (rather than this small one in the bruheat) but I don't want to go there.
Crap............
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Fermenting: FV1: AG#18 English IPA FV2: AG#19 Summer Dunkelweizen
Conditioning: AG#16 Chimay Reddish, AG#17 Amarillo Brillo
Maturing: AG#05 B.O.R.I.S.: Bricksh*tter Oatmeal Russian Imperial Stout - ready 01/10/11, AG#07 Monkey Shot! IAPA - ready 16/06/11 maybe
Drinking: AG#11, AG#14, AG#15
Planning: AG#20 Summer Hefeweisen, AG#21 Saison Brettre, AG#22 Simcoe Poisoning Red IPA, AG#23 Oatmeal Stout
Fermenting: FV1: AG#18 English IPA FV2: AG#19 Summer Dunkelweizen
Conditioning: AG#16 Chimay Reddish, AG#17 Amarillo Brillo
Maturing: AG#05 B.O.R.I.S.: Bricksh*tter Oatmeal Russian Imperial Stout - ready 01/10/11, AG#07 Monkey Shot! IAPA - ready 16/06/11 maybe
Drinking: AG#11, AG#14, AG#15
Planning: AG#20 Summer Hefeweisen, AG#21 Saison Brettre, AG#22 Simcoe Poisoning Red IPA, AG#23 Oatmeal Stout
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Re: AG #05 - B.O.R.I.S.
Ok. Am I likely to die if I bypass the thermostat on my HLT (thermostat only goes 70-80). It's a "banico immersion heater hs11" - seen people use these elsewhere on the forum.
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Fermenting: FV1: AG#18 English IPA FV2: AG#19 Summer Dunkelweizen
Conditioning: AG#16 Chimay Reddish, AG#17 Amarillo Brillo
Maturing: AG#05 B.O.R.I.S.: Bricksh*tter Oatmeal Russian Imperial Stout - ready 01/10/11, AG#07 Monkey Shot! IAPA - ready 16/06/11 maybe
Drinking: AG#11, AG#14, AG#15
Planning: AG#20 Summer Hefeweisen, AG#21 Saison Brettre, AG#22 Simcoe Poisoning Red IPA, AG#23 Oatmeal Stout
Fermenting: FV1: AG#18 English IPA FV2: AG#19 Summer Dunkelweizen
Conditioning: AG#16 Chimay Reddish, AG#17 Amarillo Brillo
Maturing: AG#05 B.O.R.I.S.: Bricksh*tter Oatmeal Russian Imperial Stout - ready 01/10/11, AG#07 Monkey Shot! IAPA - ready 16/06/11 maybe
Drinking: AG#11, AG#14, AG#15
Planning: AG#20 Summer Hefeweisen, AG#21 Saison Brettre, AG#22 Simcoe Poisoning Red IPA, AG#23 Oatmeal Stout
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Re: AG #05 - B.O.R.I.S.
The answer is no, checked my email from the supplier. Jury rig a gogo!
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Fermenting: FV1: AG#18 English IPA FV2: AG#19 Summer Dunkelweizen
Conditioning: AG#16 Chimay Reddish, AG#17 Amarillo Brillo
Maturing: AG#05 B.O.R.I.S.: Bricksh*tter Oatmeal Russian Imperial Stout - ready 01/10/11, AG#07 Monkey Shot! IAPA - ready 16/06/11 maybe
Drinking: AG#11, AG#14, AG#15
Planning: AG#20 Summer Hefeweisen, AG#21 Saison Brettre, AG#22 Simcoe Poisoning Red IPA, AG#23 Oatmeal Stout
Fermenting: FV1: AG#18 English IPA FV2: AG#19 Summer Dunkelweizen
Conditioning: AG#16 Chimay Reddish, AG#17 Amarillo Brillo
Maturing: AG#05 B.O.R.I.S.: Bricksh*tter Oatmeal Russian Imperial Stout - ready 01/10/11, AG#07 Monkey Shot! IAPA - ready 16/06/11 maybe
Drinking: AG#11, AG#14, AG#15
Planning: AG#20 Summer Hefeweisen, AG#21 Saison Brettre, AG#22 Simcoe Poisoning Red IPA, AG#23 Oatmeal Stout
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Re: AG #05 - B.O.R.I.S.
And to continue the conversation with myself, while I was modding the HLT, the old bruheat came back on. Thermal cutout maybe... I'll give it a second chance.
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Fermenting: FV1: AG#18 English IPA FV2: AG#19 Summer Dunkelweizen
Conditioning: AG#16 Chimay Reddish, AG#17 Amarillo Brillo
Maturing: AG#05 B.O.R.I.S.: Bricksh*tter Oatmeal Russian Imperial Stout - ready 01/10/11, AG#07 Monkey Shot! IAPA - ready 16/06/11 maybe
Drinking: AG#11, AG#14, AG#15
Planning: AG#20 Summer Hefeweisen, AG#21 Saison Brettre, AG#22 Simcoe Poisoning Red IPA, AG#23 Oatmeal Stout
Fermenting: FV1: AG#18 English IPA FV2: AG#19 Summer Dunkelweizen
Conditioning: AG#16 Chimay Reddish, AG#17 Amarillo Brillo
Maturing: AG#05 B.O.R.I.S.: Bricksh*tter Oatmeal Russian Imperial Stout - ready 01/10/11, AG#07 Monkey Shot! IAPA - ready 16/06/11 maybe
Drinking: AG#11, AG#14, AG#15
Planning: AG#20 Summer Hefeweisen, AG#21 Saison Brettre, AG#22 Simcoe Poisoning Red IPA, AG#23 Oatmeal Stout
Re: AG #05 - B.O.R.I.S.
Sounds like a bit of a nightmare day mate!
When I did my RIS I came in way way short of my anticipated OG. Couldnt be arsed to dick around with DME or sugars so just went with it as is and have ended up with an 8.7% beer. It was tasty out of the FV though
Also had lots of problems fitting everything into my mashtun and getting enough out, as well as the crappy efficiency. Sadly I think its just something we have to live with with these type of beers
Hope its all "calmed down" a bit for you now
When I did my RIS I came in way way short of my anticipated OG. Couldnt be arsed to dick around with DME or sugars so just went with it as is and have ended up with an 8.7% beer. It was tasty out of the FV though
Also had lots of problems fitting everything into my mashtun and getting enough out, as well as the crappy efficiency. Sadly I think its just something we have to live with with these type of beers
Hope its all "calmed down" a bit for you now
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Could have sworn I left a comment this morning!?! weird!
How's it going???
How's it going???