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beermonsta

my cider pressing day + pics and video

Post by beermonsta » Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:55 pm

Hi folks, although I'm an all-grainer by heart I had a days change last weekend to make some cider :D
It all started when the mother-not-in-law told me she had excessive apples and was making juice but didn't want it to go to waste. She had already used a juicer to make 20litres! Then a friend told me he had a small orchard (3 apple 2 pear trees) and wanted some advice. After consulting google and people on this forum (thanks to Trunky and others) advice was given to friend and some equipment and I learnt enough to begin the build. First up was deciding how to scratter the apples - in the end a vigo pulpmaster was bought (see pics below) although leyland were out of stock so I had to go to http://www.stonehelm.co.uk in oxfordhire. (NB next year I'll make a scratting machine :evil: )
Next was the press. This I made at work using beech wood and using mortace and tennon joints for strength. The three cross members have a threaded rod running through them with wing nuts either side for easy dismanteling. The drip tray is a beech chopping board with routed groove and 15mm hole & SS pipe pushed up to stop juice flowing under the board. All of it was oiled using ikeas mineral oil (food safe) and net curtain for the cheese cloths. The seperating sheets where made using 3/4" plywood with parallel grooves cut to allow juice to flow out. A square was made but reduced in perimeter size for the sunsequent presses as the pulp was squashed out of sides and not getting all the juice out! The bottle jack was a halfords 4 ton. I wet the frame etc first followed by spraying everything with a no-rinse solution of videne.
video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC49gETH0Bw
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can anyone identify the types of apples? s.g was 1050 red/green, good crunch, smallish in size - brayburn perhaps?

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chickens love the dry pancake pulp!

This filled 4 of my 3us gal cornies (50 ish litres!) plus a few 2litre pop bottles spare :)
Its now in a 50 litre carboy where I added 11 campden tablets (1 per uk gallon) and left under lock for 2 days. Then I've added more or less a full pot of youngs super wine yeast (60g). After a day its started to fizz :) As its got little head room I've got blow off tubes etc at the ready.
The other 20litres done by the missuses mum I've put in a smaller 30 liter carboy and left to naturally ferment under lock (it had already started in some of the pop bottles and had pressurised them quite a lot :shock: ) It's now bubbling less that 1 a second :)

OK some final questions
- should I rack off the lees as soon as fermenting finishes?
- should I campden a second time to increase storage viability?
- Is crash cooling a good idea (cold filtration) as I now have everything I need to crash cool (ATC800, recirc flash cooler etc)
Although I cornie everything I think quite a lot of this will end up in swingtops as many people are keen on a taste :D

I'm the only northerner with a oooo-eeeeer-commmbinne haaarvesterrr accent at the moment :lol:
Ben

Trunky

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Post by Trunky » Fri Sep 24, 2010 8:55 am

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beermonsta

Re: my cider pressing day + pics and video

Post by beermonsta » Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:06 pm

thanks once again, another question or two...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytUjkrDfvqM
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Is the green looking patch mould? should I worry at all? - this is in the 50 litre carboy with added campden & yeast - it's fermenting like a good'un as you can see/hear from the fizz and bubbler. I persume the alcohol will kill it off eventually. My ales never have funky colours on the krausen!

Funnily enough I was expecting to have to use blow off tubes etc but very little head/krausen has formed. Is this normal too?

Here is the big 50 litre carboy (campdened/added yeast)...
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and the 30 litre (natural yeast)...
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how long do you reckon it will take to ferment through? and when you say starts to clear down I persume you mean it will look clearer at some stage and not like mud! Is the natural yeasties not as quick as dropping out of suspension then?
Thanks, Ben

Trunky

:)

Post by Trunky » Fri Sep 24, 2010 6:32 pm

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beermonsta

Re: my cider pressing day + pics and video

Post by beermonsta » Fri Sep 24, 2010 7:52 pm

thanks again trunky, the apples were all picked within 2 weeks of each other. The second picture which shows the 2 inch layer of sediment was the stuff I pressed last weekend fresh. Is that normal? Te s.g was 1050 so I presume the apples were ripe enough + they tasted sweet enough to eat - The vigo pulpmaster really did an efficient job of pulping the apples - I think it was very fine/slushy pulp as that helped release more juice. Would it just be more fine partical solids that was carried in with the juice? I didn't filter any of it - I suppose that would help but I thought it would add to the nutrients, i.e. help the yeast. The natural fermentation has little sediment as it was made using a juicer and was also filtered using coffee filters I think.

When topping up after racking - If I use cornies I'll fill them to the brim, but for the ones that are partially filled should I "top up" with boiled & cooled water.
I was actually thinking it would be nice to keep it to mature in the carboys but I would still need to rack off the lees so if I carefully transfer it to one of my plastic fermenting buckets, dump the lees, rinse & clean etc before transferring back - will that be ok?
Thanks, Ben

Trunky

:)

Post by Trunky » Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:30 pm

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beermonsta

Re: my cider pressing day + pics and video

Post by beermonsta » Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:44 pm

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goes to Trunky for all his cider help! - cheers

DomClarke

Re: my cider pressing day + pics and video

Post by DomClarke » Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:57 pm

Can tell you're a teacher with that!!

jason123

Re: my cider pressing day + pics and video

Post by jason123 » Sun Oct 24, 2010 3:43 am

Have got to agree that Trunky knows his stuff and he is a great help. I might have tipped sixty litres down the drain if not for his sage advice. =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

Trunky

:)

Post by Trunky » Sun Oct 24, 2010 9:35 am

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