Black Sheep Best Bitter

[jim williams]

Anyone have a recipe? Hardest part is the fermentation of course. Couldn't believe seeing the squares in action over the summer. Very cool. Almost a perfect session pint..

[GrowlingDogBeer]

EDIT: Recipe removed as I shouldn't have posted it. Sorry guys.

There is a recipe in BYOBRA

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Brew-Your-Briti ... 777&sr=8-1

I would give that a go for a start and tweak as you feel necessary.

[Normski]

Steve
Im not sure that you should be listing Grahams recipe. Maybe just point him the way to the book. No offence meant.

[trucker5774]

Steve
Im not sure that you should be listing Grahams recipe. Maybe just point him the way to the book. No offence meant.

Good point! But on the odd occasion when a recipe has slipped out, from what Graham has said, he is not overly bothered ..................may be a bit different if someone posted the whole book on line!

[steve_flack]

I'm not sure you can claim copyright on an individual recipe anyway.

[boingy]

I'm not sure you can claim copyright on an individual recipe anyway.

Steve, I think you forgot to add this emoticon to the end of your post:

[GrowlingDogBeer]

Sorry guys, didn't realise I shouldn't have posted it, but now you mention it it seems obvious Doh!!

I have removed it now.

[steve_flack]

I'm not sure you can claim copyright on an individual recipe anyway.

Steve, I think you forgot to add this emoticon to the end of your post:

I laugh in the face of fear, tweak the nose of terror.

[Graham]

Sorry guys, didn't realise I shouldn't have posted it, but now you mention it it seems obvious Doh!!
I have removed it now.

I have no problem with it being posted. Besides, the book is so bloody expensive on Amazon.com even I wouldn't buy it if I lived over there.

There is also the Riggwelter recipe described on The Brewing Network, except that the head brewer deliberately forgot to mention the sugar, as they usually do.

[jim williams]

Sorry guys, didn't realise I shouldn't have posted it, but now you mention it it seems obvious Doh!!
I have removed it now.

I have no problem with it being posted. Besides, the book is so bloody expensive on Amazon.com even I wouldn't buy it if I lived over there.

There is also the Riggwelter recipe described on The Brewing Network, except that the head brewer deliberately forgot to mention the sugar, as they usually do.

Thanks, Graham. I appreciate that!

So, before I got a chance to look at the recipe too closely I did see it. I noticed that it had 3 different FWH. Then, an addition at 10min. Is that correct?

Funny that you mention the Brewing Network interview. I just listened to that yesterday, and remember the question about sugar. The brewer very proudly declared that of course there was no sugar or caramel! So, you're saying they do in fact add sugar?

I really should pick up the book. I own two previous versions, so just haven't gotten around to it I guess...

[Graham]

Thanks, Graham. I appreciate that!

So, before I got a chance to look at the recipe too closely I did see it. I noticed that it had 3 different FWH. Then, an addition at 10min. Is that correct?

Yes, bitterness hopping is 50% Challenger, the other 50% comprising equal parts Fuggles and Golding. Most of the alpha comes from the challenger.

Fuggles at 10 minutes to go.

Funny that you mention the Brewing Network interview. I just listened to that yesterday, and remember the question about sugar. The brewer very proudly declared that of course there was no sugar or caramel! So, you're saying they do in fact add sugar?

The question was (from memory): "Are there any sugars or caramel?", but the brewer stumbled at that point and said lots of NOs, and then qualified it by saying "No caramel", which might be true. However, sugar is declared on the bottle label, much to my relief because my published recipe for Riggwelter includes sugar.

[flything]

I think your recollection is spot on, that said the BN guys reckoned that they cloned it without using any sugar anyway.

[jim williams]

Thanks, Graham. I appreciate that!

So, before I got a chance to look at the recipe too closely I did see it. I noticed that it had 3 different FWH. Then, an addition at 10min. Is that correct?

Yes, bitterness hopping is 50% Challenger, the other 50% comprising equal parts Fuggles and Golding. Most of the alpha comes from the challenger.

Fuggles at 10 minutes to go.

Funny that you mention the Brewing Network interview. I just listened to that yesterday, and remember the question about sugar. The brewer very proudly declared that of course there was no sugar or caramel! So, you're saying they do in fact add sugar?

The question was (from memory): "Are there any sugars or caramel?", but the brewer stumbled at that point and said lots of NOs, and then qualified it by saying "No caramel", which might be true. However, sugar is declared on the bottle label, much to my relief because my published recipe for Riggwelter includes sugar.

Surprised to see the bitterness coming from FWH exclusively. I didn't think that was a technique used in British brewing much. That helps alot. Thanks again.

[Graham]

Surprised to see the bitterness coming from FWH exclusively. I didn't think that was a technique used in British brewing much. That helps alot. Thanks again.

Not sure that Black Sheep use what is euphemistically called First Wort Hopping. The bittering hops are probably added at 'copper up', that is, when the wort comes to the boil. The aroma hops are probably laid on the hop-back plates before casting out the copper onto them. Whatever they did with Riggwelter, they will do the same with the Best Bitter. You might get some clues from the Riggwelter podcast.

[BarnsleyBrewer]

Sorry guys, didn't realise I shouldn't have posted it, but now you mention it it seems obvious Doh!!
I have removed it now.

I have no problem with it being posted. Besides, the book is so bloody expensive on Amazon.com even I wouldn't buy it if I lived over there.

There is also the Riggwelter recipe described on The Brewing Network, except that the head brewer deliberately forgot to mention the sugar, as they usually do.

Are these recipes near perfect with info gained from head brewers or do you make a knowledgeable guess?
Not been flippant because I was taught most of what I know from your books, and Dave Line too..God bless him.

BB