Reculturing from a Westmalle bottle

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mysterio

Reculturing from a Westmalle bottle

Post by mysterio » Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:09 pm

I just poured 200mls of cooled wort into the dregs of a Westmalle Tripel bottle. Has anyone tried reculturing from such a high alcohol beer (9.5%)? I suspect the yeast might have conked out during however long the bottles have been on the shelf.

Excellent beer by the way :lol:

tubby_shaw

Post by tubby_shaw » Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:30 pm

Yes is the answer.
In the past the majority of yeasts that I used were "rescued" from bottles.
My experience was that most of the yeasts could be revived but some of them could take upto a week before they would show any signs of activity.
My advice is to add only 100 ml or so of wort initialy and aerate it to the point of there being only froth and no liquid :shock:
A tiny amount of Diamonium phosphate yeast nutrient helped too 8)

mysterio

Post by mysterio » Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:26 pm

Cheers Tubs.

So I'm planning to reculture with a small amount of wort in the bottle, then when it shows signs of activity, into a larger one litre starter. Does that sound right?

steve_flack

Post by steve_flack » Fri Feb 23, 2007 9:26 am

You could of course just buy the yeast and save yourself the bother (and reduce the risk of failure/infection) - It's WhiteLabs WLP-530.

tubby_shaw

Post by tubby_shaw » Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:29 am

mysterio wrote:Cheers Tubs.

So I'm planning to reculture with a small amount of wort in the bottle, then when it shows signs of activity, into a larger one litre starter. Does that sound right?
I personally decant the yeast slurry into my starter bottle and add wort there, but yes you could do it in the origonal bottle and then transfer into another vessel as it grows 8)

mysterio

Post by mysterio » Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:21 pm

steve_flack wrote:You could of course just buy the yeast and save yourself the bother (and reduce the risk of failure/infection) - It's WhiteLabs WLP-530.
Where's the fun in that! :=P

You're right though, I'm just doing this as an experiment... I doubt I'll actually use it :?

I've actually got some White Labs Belgian Bastogne on order which is the Orval yeast apparently.

steve_flack

Post by steve_flack » Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:25 pm

I wonder if that yeast is just the primary yeast.

Apparently Orval add a bunch of other yeasts (including Brett) in the secondary then after that, centrifuge and reseed with the primary yeast for bottling. The beer in the bottle does still have some Brettanomyces in it so I wonder if the Bastogne yeast is just the primary yeast or is it the primary plus Brett.

mysterio

Post by mysterio » Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:27 pm

I was wondering the same thing, I suspect it's the primary without the Brett.

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