Brewing Like Americans: Cascadian and Amber Ales (PIC HEAVY)

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lancsSteve

Brewing Like Americans: Cascadian and Amber Ales (PIC HEAVY)

Post by lancsSteve » Mon Apr 11, 2011 8:19 pm

Howdy folks. Well we read that thar thread about them differences between American and British Homebrewing and thought we should have a go at Brewing like them folks in the "new world".

So welcome to this here thread where we went to brew:
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Then I went got myself a nice US-style Brewery to play on - shiny, keg based and gas-fired... yee ha!
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So here we are - the fabulous Brewing Bros
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First up was some serious formulatin' of them thar recipes - which is one of the ways those Americans differ from the two malts and one hop British Ale Recipes of 'Brew Your OWn Real Ale at Home'. Now some people accuse them American's of making it all too complicated, the luddite Brits even say it's "unnecessary".

We went for one 'base' recipe with two versions both using a dual-purpose hop simcoe (with thanks to Mysterio for those):
One with the ase malts and then citra (thanks to pantsmachine for those) as the aroma/flavour hop.
The other as the new BJCP syle of 'cascadian' with cold extract dark grains see details at http://www.byo.com/component/resource/a ... n-dark-ale


Files available:
Base recipe (Beer XML File) - http://www.lancs.ac.uk/staff/wrightst/b ... ricans.xml

Citra Amber Ale Recipe (HTML from BeerAlchemy with edits) - http://www.lancs.ac.uk/staff/wrightst/b ... trAle.html

Cascadian Recipe (HTML from Beer Alchemy with edits) - http://www.lancs.ac.uk/staff/wrightst/b ... adian.html
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lancsSteve

Re: Brewing Like Americans: Amber CitrAle Recipe

Post by lancsSteve » Mon Apr 11, 2011 8:20 pm

RECIPE - Amber CitrAle

MALT BILL

German Bohemian Pilsner Malt 3.000kg 49.6 %

UK Pale Ale Malt (Low Color) 2.000kg 33.0 %

UK Munich Malt 200g 3.3 %

German Munich Malt 200g 3.3 %

UK Crystal Rye Malt 176g 2.9 %

UK Vienna Malt 164g 2.7 %

German CaraMunich II 75g 1.2 %

German Melanoidin Malt 57g 0.9 %

German Melanoidin Malt 57g 0.9 %

UK Torrified Wheat 36g 0.6 %

Belgian Biscuit Malt 25g 0.4 %

German Sauer(Acid) Malt 14g 0.2 %

Belgian Special B 14g 0.2 %

German CaraAroma 14g 0.2 %

UK Medium Crystal 14g 0.2 %

UK Dark Crystal 7g 0.1 %

Mashing
Mash Type: Full Mash

Schedule Name: Single Step Infusion (66C/151F)

Boil
70 minute boil, cool to 90c (20 mins) then 80c (20 mins) then crash cool to 20c for pitching.

HOPS

German Herkules 15.8 % 72g

US Simcoe 12.9% 44g

US Citra 13.8% 116g


HOP SCHEDULE

German Herkules 36 g (0.0IBU) - In mash

German Herkules 36 g (0.0IBU) - In HLT


Dual Use Hops - Continuous Hopping (Pi)

US Simcoe 3g (3.9ibu) First Wort Hopped

US Simcoe 1g (1.3ibu) 70 Min From End

US Simcoe 4g (4.9ibu) 60 Min From End

US Simcoe 1g (1.2ibu) 50 Min From End

US Simcoe 5g (5.4ibu) 40 Min From End

US Simcoe 9g (8.5ibu) 30 Min From End

US Simcoe 2g (1.5ibu) 20 Min From End

US Simcoe 6g (2.7ibu) 10 Min From End

US Simcoe 5g (0.0ibu) At Turn Off

US Simcoe 3g (0.0 ibu) 90c Steep

US Simcoe 5g (0.0ibu) 80c Steep


Flavor/Aroma Hopping (Fibonacci)

US Citra 1g (1.3 ibu) 60 Min From End

US Citra 1g (1.2ibu) 50 Min From End

US Citra 2g (2.3 ibu) 40 Min From End

US Citra 3g (3.0 ibu) 30 Min From End

US Citra 5g (4.0 ibu) 20 Min From End

US Citra 8 g (3.8ibu) 10 Min From End

US Citra 13 g (0.0ibu) At Turn Off

US Citra 21 g (0.0ibu) 90c Steep

US Citra 34 g (0.0 ibu) 80c Steep

Yeast

DCL US-05 (formerly US-56) SafAle - ferment at 18c
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lancsSteve

Re: Brewing Like Americans: Amber Citra Ale Recipe

Post by lancsSteve » Mon Apr 11, 2011 8:20 pm

RECIPE - Cascadian

MALT BILL

Mash Grains

As CitrAle

Cold Extract Grains
German Carafa Special I 240 g 3.7 % 29.3 Cold Extract

German Carafa Special II 100g 1.6 % 15.6 Cold Extract

German Carafa Special III 40g 0.6 % 7.6 Cold Extract

German Chocolate Wheat Malt 28g 0.4 % 3.8 Cold Extract

German Roasted Rye 10g 0.2 % 0.9 Cold Extract

UK Black Malt 6g 0.1 % 1.2 Cold Extract

UK Pale Chocolate Malt 6g 0.1 % 0.4 Cold Extract

UK Chocolate Malt 6g 0.1 % 1.0 Cold Extract

UK Roasted Barley 5g 0.1 % 1.2 Cold Extract



Mashing
Mash Type: Full Mash + Cold Extract

Schedule Name:
Single Step Infusion (66C/151F)

Cold extract - grains overnight in grain bag in fridge (5c), extraction (3l water) added to boil

Boil
70 minute boil, cool to 90c (20 mins) then 80c (20 mins) then crash cool to 20c for pitching.

HOPS

German Herkules 15.8 % 72g

US Simcoe 12.9% 44g

US Ahtanum

HOP SCHEDULE
German Herkules 36 g (0.0ibu) In Mash

German Herkules 36 g (0.0 ibu) In HLT

Dual Use Hops - Continuous Hopping
As CitrAle

Flavor/Aroma Hopping (Triangular)

US Ahtanum 6g (2.9ibu) 70 Min From End

US Ahtanum 10g (4.5ibu) 50 Min From End

US Ahtanum 15g (5.4ibu) 30 Min From End

US Ahtanum 21g (3.6ibu) 10 Min From End

US Ahtanum 28g (0.6ibu) At turn off

US Ahtanum 36g (0.0 ibu) 80c Steep


Yeast

DCL US-05 (formerly US-56) SafAle - ferment at 18c
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lancsSteve

Re: Brewing Like Americans: The Brew

Post by lancsSteve » Mon Apr 11, 2011 8:28 pm

The cold extract grains:
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Getting the mash ready - Hercules hops into the tun first:
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The crystal and malt grains:
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Adding it all to the tun then underletting:
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And adding Herkules hops into the HLT:
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lancsSteve

Re: Brewing Like Americans: Mashing Out

Post by lancsSteve » Mon Apr 11, 2011 8:34 pm

We recirculated the wort using the pump and an underback - unfortunately I think I burned something out as there was a definite ping noise and smell of burning :( so fear something was badly up with that - thought I had the recirc all setup right to run the recirculation. Ideas on what may hav happened MOST welcomed.

Tending the recirc and underback:
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Pausing for a drink:
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lancsSteve

Re: Brewing Like Americans: The Boil

Post by lancsSteve » Mon Apr 11, 2011 8:38 pm

Organising the hop schedule:
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Adding the cold extract:
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End of Boil:
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Cooling to 90c for more hops:
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Unfortunately didn't get to recirc the wort as was a little worried about state of the pump so did it all by hand - most un-American and to be reported to the appropriate authorities.

lancsSteve

Re: Brewing Like Americans: Pitching

Post by lancsSteve » Mon Apr 11, 2011 8:41 pm

Running off the amber:
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And transferring to FV:
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And for the cascadian:
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Into the fermenting cabinet set to 18c:
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lancsSteve

Brewing Like Americans: Finishing Up

Post by lancsSteve » Mon Apr 11, 2011 8:43 pm

Brewery cleaned up and packed away...

Don't you just LOVE it when a plan comes together!

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A honkin big brewday - hope all y'all enjoyed our little thread!

richc

Re: Brewing Like Americans: Cascadian and Amber Ales (PIC HE

Post by richc » Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:44 pm

That's either insane or inspired, not sure which..... I love the flag, especially since I work for one of those logos....

Spud395

Re: Brewing Like Americans: Cascadian and Amber Ales (PIC HE

Post by Spud395 » Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:07 pm

Love it, how black is that cold extract!

mysterio

Re: Brewing Like Americans: Cascadian and Amber Ales (PIC HE

Post by mysterio » Mon Apr 11, 2011 11:05 pm

I have one problem, Shell is Anglo-Dutch, why is it on the American flag?? Adidas ?

Great thread!

196osh

Re: Brewing Like Americans: Cascadian and Amber Ales (PIC HE

Post by 196osh » Mon Apr 11, 2011 11:17 pm

Thats fantastic. Looks like a brilliant day. And Geof. :lol:

Lewy

Re: Brewing Like Americans: Cascadian and Amber Ales (PIC HE

Post by Lewy » Tue Apr 12, 2011 2:08 pm

What an awesome post mate, love the pics.
Are you drinking out of some kind of food jar in the pause :-)

TheMumbler

Re: Brewing Like Americans: Cascadian and Amber Ales (PIC HE

Post by TheMumbler » Tue Apr 12, 2011 2:26 pm

Those are the jars I did the cold extract of carafa 1 and 3 in. Cleaned out obviously. jimny popped over with some of his schniederweisseish so we had a duty to help out with quality control :)

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Re: Brewing Like Americans: Cascadian and Amber Ales (PIC HE

Post by WishboneBrewery » Tue Apr 12, 2011 5:48 pm

You two are mad... You must have some messy night out / night in!!! :D :D

I see that first recipe used up everything you had odds and ends of!! :D

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