Ice concentration

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Ice concentration

Post by jordanchaos » Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:49 pm

I have finally, successfully concentrated a beer (like Tactical Nuclear Penguin) I took 3 litres of my Big ballsy Stout (AKA Deathkvlt) and through a freezing /un-thawing process has a brandy ish beery taste very pleasant, not to mention OMFG strong! A worthy experiment and all from a Muntons gold kit!

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Ice concentration

Post by Stoat on a rope » Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:11 pm

I've been wanting to try this, what size vessel did you use and what sort of return did you get? Did you just use a normal freezer and do you know what temperature it was at? I know at BrewDog they go down to about -30/40C and do three to four re-freezes.

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Re: Ice concentration

Post by duffymoon » Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:52 pm

Oh my god this new development could push my wife over the edge! Full instructions please!!

jordanchaos

Re: Ice concentration

Post by jordanchaos » Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:59 pm

Btw Stoat, big fan of your work!

The beer I used was really high gravity, I'm a scientist by trade so, at home I mostly go by thumb.

I used a sterile 1.5lt coke bottle. Filled to 1litre.
Put it in a domestic freezer, now its only about minus 5/10 deg. Thats ok, water freezes at 0 and I dont want to freeze anything else but that. 12 hours it was solid. I took the cap off and turned it upside down in to a pint glass. The first runoff was clear and very very strong! Had a vodka ish taste, my guess is it was pretty much ethanol. Kept draining it till about 500ml. What was leftover was brown ice. Repeated so I had 1 litre of concerntrated beer. Froze it and now I have 250ml from 2 litres. Its very very strong.

Secue

Re: Ice concentration

Post by Secue » Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:13 pm

lol, i'm going to have to try this I think. cheers for the inspiration jordan.

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Re: Ice concentration

Post by DeadFall » Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:38 pm

OMG! You're encouraging binge drinking, all the babies will die and it will be your fault.

Now you're going to have to clone Nanny State.
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Re: Ice concentration

Post by hommebru » Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:57 pm

brilliant idea mate. might have to give this a go at one point.

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Ice concentration

Post by Stoat on a rope » Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:02 am

Awesome! I will be trying that with what I'm currently fermenting... Freeze distilled lambic anyone?!

Cheers!

jordanchaos

Re: Ice concentration

Post by jordanchaos » Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:38 am

I'd name my new brew 'babykiller' but since my missus is due in 3 months she might throw a paddy! hahaha
I want to TRY a lambic beer so badly. I was actually trying to explain to a friend why I wanted to make a super mild (nanny state style) beer
Sometimes 9like when ive been out riding my bike, or just damn thirsty I want to drink 10 pints of tasty beer without turning in to a werewolf
Like - was it Mild? that dockers and the like had?

anyway.. on with the doom
Here is my beer
Bottle -Image

This was a muntons imperial kit + 1kg brew enhancer + 1kg dextrose + 500g white sugar + a high gravity ale yeast.
before you hate... its bloody awesome dont have a hydrometer (yet- broke old one) but it makes you feel warm and wonky.

In the glass -Image

Im going to add 25% Icejack beer to the stout during bottling to make BLACK NUMBER ONE!

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Re: Ice concentration

Post by DeadFall » Fri Mar 16, 2012 7:09 pm

Looks great. I've just had a blowout and filled myself up to capacity, so I'm tempted to buy a load of new bottles and put some form of RIS on.
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Re: Ice concentration

Post by jordanchaos » Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:45 pm

I might try this with cider next. the icejacked beer on its own is quite frankly 'orrid.

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Re: Ice concentration

Post by Secue » Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:26 pm

Right then m'laddo's, I just tried this out in a basic format, and it's absolutely spectacular. I took a Blueberry and apple TC that I have just brewed, and put approx 750ml into a sterile 1L bottle. Then, shoved it in the freezer, which is set to -21C. I have just up ended the bottle and drained everything thats coming out, and ended up with 250ml.

Now the TC started out at 8.4%, but I don't think I can use a hydrometer to measure this can I? so is it just three times as strong now as it was? as I've reduced the liquid from 750 to 250?

25.2% ABV?

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Re: Ice concentration

Post by Pinto » Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:40 pm

Depends on how your hydrometer is scaled - mine will read to ~30% abv (as proved on my spirit kits which weighed in at 21% approx) - could also consider buying a brix refractometer which should read further - plenty on the 'bay to be had around £25
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Re: Ice concentration

Post by jordanchaos » Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:21 pm

I have a white grape/apple mix that may want this!

Blueberry TC? Do tell!

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Re: Ice concentration

Post by Spud395 » Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:44 pm

This is called freeze distilling and like other forms of distilation is illegal without a licence

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