JBK Own ESB

[poolking]

ESB for me also, just made the fullers and loved it. Got some crisp mo and crystal, fuggles, goldings . Looking forward to making a recipe from the gods. Great idea, thank you.

[Cpt.Frederickson]

For me, nothing too extravagant as we want it to be easily reproducible by anyone on the forum. I like the idea of Amber to compliment a pale and crystal grain bill. Real British beer!

[Andy]

I'm in favour or keeping ingredients simple [as in readily available] so we can get the maximum people participating.

For me that means no crazy grains or Peruvian hops which are only harvested on years ending in prime numbers

And dried yeasts only. Slants/smackpacks may be superior but they cost £££ and (for slants) require starters etc which don't seem appropriate for a recipe appealing to as many brewers as we can.


Just my thoughts

[Pinto]

ESB for me also, just made the fullers and loved it. Got some crisp mo and crystal, fuggles, goldings . Looking forward to making a recipe from the gods. Great idea, thank you.

Oddly enough - Fullers ESB was the VERY recipie I was looking at as a possible framework

[spanspoon]

shouldn't jim make a suggestion? a tried and tested favourite brew? with as mentioned english ingredients, traditions etc?

[Jim]

shouldn't jim make a suggestion? a tried and tested favourite brew? with as mentioned english ingredients, traditions etc?

These days I hardly ever make the same brew twice!

OK, I generally agree with Andy above that it should be a straightforward ESB with no exotic, difficult -to-source ingredients.

Lets say OG 55, IBU 60, 5% Caramalt, 4% Crystal Malt, 5% Torrefied Wheat, Marris Otter pale. That's roughly what my 10th Anniversary bitter was (except a bit weaker) and that was a lovely pint.

Hops? Challenger for bittering maybe, fInishing hops should be EKGs or maybe fuggles or even a combination. Discuss?

Yeast - I'm not personally that keen on SO4, but with OG 55, even a highly attenuating yeast will make a decent job of it, so own choice would be good (as previously suggested). I thought I might try Windsor, as I intend mine to be on draught, rather than bottled.

Feel free to criticise, modify etc.

[Deebee]

shouldn't jim make a suggestion? a tried and tested favourite brew? with as mentioned english ingredients, traditions etc?

These days I hardly ever make the same brew twice!

OK, I generally agree with Andy above that it should be a straightforward ESB with no exotic, difficult -to-source ingredients.

Lets say OG 55, IBU 60, 5% Caramalt, 4% Crystal Malt, 5% Torrefied Wheat, Marris Otter pale. That's roughly what my 10th Anniversary bitter was (except a bit weaker) and that was a lovely pint.

Hops? Challenger for bittering maybe, fInishing hops should be EKGs or maybe fuggles or even a combination. Discuss?

Yeast - I'm not personally that keen on SO4, but with OG 55, even a highly attenuating yeast will make a decent job of it, so own choice would be good (as previously suggested). I thought I might try Windsor, as I intend mine to be on draught, rather than bottled.

Feel free to criticise, modify etc.

I am sold.
Lets get someone with a brain to make the recipe!

[Flaneur]

I'm in. I have only just seen this, and it sounds fun. I am fairly new to AG, so I like the idea of a standard grain and hop recipe and then leaving it to individual choice on the yeast. The simpler the better for me.
A classic ESB sounds right up my street. GW's book uses Challenger, Northdown and Target. I really like the Fuggles and Goldings idea, though.

[Cpt.Frederickson]

I'm down for challenger, fuggles and goldings.

[Clibit]

I'm not a fuggles fanatic, would prefer the target challenger northdown option.

[Hanglow]

Challenger/First Gold/EKG would be nice

[Cpt.Frederickson]

Challenger/First Gold/EKG would be nice

That sounds even better than with fuggles

[barry44]

I have no experience of british hops so i am counting on you guys to make the best selection.

[byronb]

This is a recipe based on Jim's last post. If someone wants to suggest a better hop schedule I'll update it. Also uploaded to BeerSmith

JBK Own ESB
Extra Special/Strong Bitter (English Pale Ale)
Batch size: 22.7L

GRAINBILL
86.0% = 4.579kg, Pale Malt, Maris Otter
5.0% = 0.266kg, Caramalt (Thomas Fawcett)
5.0% = 0.266kg, Wheat, Torrified (Thomas Fawcett)
4.0% = 0.213kg, Crystal Malt - 60L (Thomas Fawcett)

MASH at 67.0°C

HOPS
44.0g = 55.6IBUs, Challenger (11.5%), 60.0 min
28.0g = 4.3IBUs, Goldings, East Kent (5.8%), 0 min (20.0 min steep)

YEAST
Brewer's Choice, Lallemand Windsor Yeast used to calculate FG

STATS (assuming 75.0% efficiency and 75.0% attenuation)
OG: 1.055
FG: 1.013
ABV: 5.5%
IBU: 60
Colour: 14.1 EBC █

[Jim]

This is a recipe based on Jim's last post. If someone wants to suggest a better hop schedule I'll update it. Also uploaded to BeerSmith

JBK Own ESB
Extra Special/Strong Bitter (English Pale Ale)
Batch size: 22.7L

GRAINBILL
86.0% = 4.579kg, Pale Malt, Maris Otter
5.0% = 0.266kg, Caramalt (Thomas Fawcett)
5.0% = 0.266kg, Wheat, Torrified (Thomas Fawcett)
4.0% = 0.213kg, Crystal Malt - 60L (Thomas Fawcett)

MASH at 67.0°C

HOPS
44.0g = 55.6IBUs, Challenger (11.5%), 60.0 min
28.0g = 4.3IBUs, Goldings, East Kent (5.8%), 0 min (20.0 min steep)

YEAST
Brewer's Choice, Lallemand Windsor Yeast used to calculate FG

STATS (assuming 75.0% efficiency and 75.0% attenuation)
OG: 1.055
FG: 1.013
ABV: 5.5%
IBU: 60
Colour: 14.1 EBC

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