AG#35 - Haunted Galleon (Ghost Ship v1)
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AG#35 - Haunted Galleon (Ghost Ship v1)
I've been planning and talking about brewing an Adnams Ghost Ship clone for a couple of years now, and have now finally got around to brewing version 1
Aim: To produce something close to the real thing and also to try and build some consistency into my brewing process on the Grainfather, because after 5 previous brews of varying styles and brewlengths, I still don't feel as though I can confidently hit my numbers yet. Coupled with this, the Grainfather recipe software has changed since I started using it May this year, so you now have to dial in a much higher efficiency value to achieve the same OG. Maybe this is all a marketing thing because the same recipe when inputted into Brewmate, shows a drop of 7% in Brewhouse Efficiency.
Anyway, this brewday went well yesterday and as I was potentially expecting, I overshot my planned OG by 2 points, so there's the first adjustment for v2.
I know that to get the best match to the real beer, I should be using the Adnams yeast, but I have chosen to start with S-04 until I get somewhere near, because I find this yeast to be very reliable and I don't think that I have got the skills to confidently produce enough yeast from the dregs from a mini cask at this time.
I will update this post as the brew finishes and conditions.................
Haunted Galleon v1 (Adnams Ghost Ship Clone)
American Pale Ale
Brew Date 06.10.18
Recipe Specs
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Batch Size (L): 23.0
Total Grain (kg): 5.000
Total Hops (g): 132.00
Original Gravity (OG): 1.048 (°P): 11.9
Final Gravity (FG): 1.012 (°P): 3.1
Alcohol by Volume (ABV): 4.72 %
Colour (SRM): 8.6 (EBC): 17.0
Bitterness (IBU): 35.2 (Tinseth)
Brewhouse Efficiency (%): 70 (Grainfather software says 77%!)
Boil Time (Minutes): 60
Grain Bill
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4.500 kg Crisp Maris Otter Malt (90%)
0.250 kg Crisp Caramalt (5%)
0.250 kg Thomas Fawcett Crystal Rye Malt (5%)
Hop Bill
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12.0 g Columbus Leaf (16.8% Alpha) @ 60 Minutes (Boil) (0.5 g/L)
40.0 g Amarillo Pellet (9.6% Alpha) @ 10 Minutes (Boil) (1.7 g/L)
20.0 g Amarillo Pellet (9.6% Alpha) @ 0 Minutes (Aroma) (0.9 g/L)
20.0 g Citra Pellet (11.2% Alpha) @ 0 Minutes (Aroma) (0.9 g/L)
40.0 g Citra Pellet (11.2% Alpha) @ 0 Days (Dry Hop) (1.7 g/L)
Misc Bill
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1.0 g Calcium Chloride @ 60 Minutes (Mash)
5.0 g Gypsum (Calcium Sulfate) @ 60 Minutes (Mash)
5.0 g Gypsum (Calcium Sulfate) @ 60 Minutes (Boil)
3.0 g Irish Moss @ 15 Minutes (Boil)
Notes
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Water Profile - Graham Wheelers Dry Pale Ale
Untreated Alkalinity - 116.5ppm CaCO3
Treated Alkalinity - 25ppm CaCO3
AMS @0.45ml/L
Mash pH - 5.44 (22C)
Single step Infusion at 67°C for 60 Minutes.
Fermented at 20°C with Safale S-04
Recipe Generated with BrewMate
Cheers
MB
Aim: To produce something close to the real thing and also to try and build some consistency into my brewing process on the Grainfather, because after 5 previous brews of varying styles and brewlengths, I still don't feel as though I can confidently hit my numbers yet. Coupled with this, the Grainfather recipe software has changed since I started using it May this year, so you now have to dial in a much higher efficiency value to achieve the same OG. Maybe this is all a marketing thing because the same recipe when inputted into Brewmate, shows a drop of 7% in Brewhouse Efficiency.
Anyway, this brewday went well yesterday and as I was potentially expecting, I overshot my planned OG by 2 points, so there's the first adjustment for v2.
I know that to get the best match to the real beer, I should be using the Adnams yeast, but I have chosen to start with S-04 until I get somewhere near, because I find this yeast to be very reliable and I don't think that I have got the skills to confidently produce enough yeast from the dregs from a mini cask at this time.
I will update this post as the brew finishes and conditions.................
Haunted Galleon v1 (Adnams Ghost Ship Clone)
American Pale Ale
Brew Date 06.10.18
Recipe Specs
----------------
Batch Size (L): 23.0
Total Grain (kg): 5.000
Total Hops (g): 132.00
Original Gravity (OG): 1.048 (°P): 11.9
Final Gravity (FG): 1.012 (°P): 3.1
Alcohol by Volume (ABV): 4.72 %
Colour (SRM): 8.6 (EBC): 17.0
Bitterness (IBU): 35.2 (Tinseth)
Brewhouse Efficiency (%): 70 (Grainfather software says 77%!)
Boil Time (Minutes): 60
Grain Bill
----------------
4.500 kg Crisp Maris Otter Malt (90%)
0.250 kg Crisp Caramalt (5%)
0.250 kg Thomas Fawcett Crystal Rye Malt (5%)
Hop Bill
----------------
12.0 g Columbus Leaf (16.8% Alpha) @ 60 Minutes (Boil) (0.5 g/L)
40.0 g Amarillo Pellet (9.6% Alpha) @ 10 Minutes (Boil) (1.7 g/L)
20.0 g Amarillo Pellet (9.6% Alpha) @ 0 Minutes (Aroma) (0.9 g/L)
20.0 g Citra Pellet (11.2% Alpha) @ 0 Minutes (Aroma) (0.9 g/L)
40.0 g Citra Pellet (11.2% Alpha) @ 0 Days (Dry Hop) (1.7 g/L)
Misc Bill
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1.0 g Calcium Chloride @ 60 Minutes (Mash)
5.0 g Gypsum (Calcium Sulfate) @ 60 Minutes (Mash)
5.0 g Gypsum (Calcium Sulfate) @ 60 Minutes (Boil)
3.0 g Irish Moss @ 15 Minutes (Boil)
Notes
---------------
Water Profile - Graham Wheelers Dry Pale Ale
Untreated Alkalinity - 116.5ppm CaCO3
Treated Alkalinity - 25ppm CaCO3
AMS @0.45ml/L
Mash pH - 5.44 (22C)
Single step Infusion at 67°C for 60 Minutes.
Fermented at 20°C with Safale S-04
Recipe Generated with BrewMate
Cheers
MB
FV:
Conditioning:
AG#41 - Vienna Lager - 5.6%
AG#42 - Heritage Double Ale - 10.5%
On Tap:
AG#44 - Harvest ESB - 5.4%
AG#45 - Amarillo Gold APA - 5.2%
Conditioning:
AG#41 - Vienna Lager - 5.6%
AG#42 - Heritage Double Ale - 10.5%
On Tap:
AG#44 - Harvest ESB - 5.4%
AG#45 - Amarillo Gold APA - 5.2%
Re: AG#35 - Haunted Galleon v1
Nice one, keep us updated.
I brewed at the weekend using a similar grain bill to yours, but hopped with magnum then all citra for flavour and aroma.
I brewed at the weekend using a similar grain bill to yours, but hopped with magnum then all citra for flavour and aroma.
Re: AG#35 - Haunted Galleon v1
Interesting what you say about the change in the software with regards needing a higher efficiency value for same OG, cannot say i noticed that.
Re: AG#35 - Haunted Galleon v1
How's this coming along?
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Re: AG#35 - Haunted Galleon v1
It's going ok.
I only put the dry hops in 3 days ago, because I gave the brew a few more days for the gravity to drop bellow 1.014, but that didn't happen so it has finished a bit higher than anticipated.
The sample jar colour looked a bit darker than I think it should be, but I will do a side by side comparison with the real thing when it's ready to drink.
Both samples that I took, tasted mildy hoppy and I could definitely pick out the Amarillo, but I'm sure that the Citra will give it a bit of a kick when it's done.
Planning on kegged Thursday/Friday.
Cheers
MB
FV:
Conditioning:
AG#41 - Vienna Lager - 5.6%
AG#42 - Heritage Double Ale - 10.5%
On Tap:
AG#44 - Harvest ESB - 5.4%
AG#45 - Amarillo Gold APA - 5.2%
Conditioning:
AG#41 - Vienna Lager - 5.6%
AG#42 - Heritage Double Ale - 10.5%
On Tap:
AG#44 - Harvest ESB - 5.4%
AG#45 - Amarillo Gold APA - 5.2%
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Re: AG#35 - Haunted Galleon v1
Monkey,
You sound a bit down for this Beer?
C`mon Mun, shape up and reap the rewards.
I hope it turns out OK for you.
WA
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You sound a bit down for this Beer?
C`mon Mun, shape up and reap the rewards.
I hope it turns out OK for you.
WA
Bottles sent to me will be `Taste Tested`.
Re: AG#35 - Haunted Galleon v1
The citra will defiantly give it a boost
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Re: AG#35 - Haunted Galleon v1
Yeah suppose I am a bit, don't know why really, as I am planning to refine this brew over the next 12 months
Should be a decent beer whatever all going well.
Planning a Simcoe Porter next
Cheers
MB
FV:
Conditioning:
AG#41 - Vienna Lager - 5.6%
AG#42 - Heritage Double Ale - 10.5%
On Tap:
AG#44 - Harvest ESB - 5.4%
AG#45 - Amarillo Gold APA - 5.2%
Conditioning:
AG#41 - Vienna Lager - 5.6%
AG#42 - Heritage Double Ale - 10.5%
On Tap:
AG#44 - Harvest ESB - 5.4%
AG#45 - Amarillo Gold APA - 5.2%
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Re: AG#35 - Haunted Galleon v1
Bought a bottle of Adnams Tally Ho! the other day and noticed it was bottle conditioned, got a little excited, but thought I would check with the brewery whether this was the real deal or a bottling strain. Fergus very kindly replied saying it was a bottling strain as the real thing doesn't "sediment well". Just in case someone noticed this and thought aha! Adnams clone brews here we go.
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Re: AG#35 - Haunted Galleon v1
Like a bit of Tally Ho!orlando wrote: ↑Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:44 amBought a bottle of Adnams Tally Ho! the other day and noticed it was bottle conditioned, got a little excited, but thought I would check with the brewery whether this was the real deal or a bottling strain. Fergus very kindly replied saying it was a bottling strain as the real thing doesn't "sediment well". Just in case someone noticed this and thought aha! Adnams clone brews here we go.
I know the way to brew a proper clone, will be to use Adnams yeast, but I would rather keep the yeast side of things simple at this stage
This brew is heading for the keg and 10 x bottles very shortly.
I will report back with some pics once it is ready to drink
Cheers
MB
FV:
Conditioning:
AG#41 - Vienna Lager - 5.6%
AG#42 - Heritage Double Ale - 10.5%
On Tap:
AG#44 - Harvest ESB - 5.4%
AG#45 - Amarillo Gold APA - 5.2%
Conditioning:
AG#41 - Vienna Lager - 5.6%
AG#42 - Heritage Double Ale - 10.5%
On Tap:
AG#44 - Harvest ESB - 5.4%
AG#45 - Amarillo Gold APA - 5.2%
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Re: AG#35 - Haunted Galleon v1
Hi,
I had a couple of pints of this brew from my keg last night after it had been conditioning for a little over 2 weeks.
The clarity is very poor from the keg, even though I used gelatin in the same way that I always do, and I also checked one of the bottles that have been indoors since bottling and they are just as cloudy. S-04 would have normally dropped clear in the bottle by now, so I am starting to wonder if I actually added the Irish Moss into the last 15mins of the boil
That aside, it is a very moreish beer at the moment and I could have easily downed a couple more pints, but it was pi$$ing it down and my keggerator is in the garage which is a fair way from my house, so I decided to stay dry The hop aroma and taste was very nice and the combo seemed to work well IMO, I think that the water profile has certainly helped here, as I sometimes struggle to get that hit I'm after, but I have never used this profile before, so definately something positve learned there.
The body seems a bit heavy and coupled with the strong flavour of the Crystal Rye, it's more like an Amber Ale (not a bad thing, but not what I'm after).
It certainly isn't anything near Adnams Ghost Ship, so I will make the following tweaks for the version 2 whenever that gets brewed -
Cheers
MB
I had a couple of pints of this brew from my keg last night after it had been conditioning for a little over 2 weeks.
The clarity is very poor from the keg, even though I used gelatin in the same way that I always do, and I also checked one of the bottles that have been indoors since bottling and they are just as cloudy. S-04 would have normally dropped clear in the bottle by now, so I am starting to wonder if I actually added the Irish Moss into the last 15mins of the boil
That aside, it is a very moreish beer at the moment and I could have easily downed a couple more pints, but it was pi$$ing it down and my keggerator is in the garage which is a fair way from my house, so I decided to stay dry The hop aroma and taste was very nice and the combo seemed to work well IMO, I think that the water profile has certainly helped here, as I sometimes struggle to get that hit I'm after, but I have never used this profile before, so definately something positve learned there.
The body seems a bit heavy and coupled with the strong flavour of the Crystal Rye, it's more like an Amber Ale (not a bad thing, but not what I'm after).
It certainly isn't anything near Adnams Ghost Ship, so I will make the following tweaks for the version 2 whenever that gets brewed -
- The Crystal Rye is quite dominant in it's flavour and colour, so I will dial this back to 3%
- I will also tweak the base malt back a little if required, to hit 1.046 OG
- The mash temperature will go from 67C to 66C to help with a lower FG
- I am going to leave the hop schedule as is, because I don't want to fiddle with too much in one go
- The bittering seems a little high to my taste, so I will back this off a little too (maybe linked to the water profile?)
Cheers
MB
FV:
Conditioning:
AG#41 - Vienna Lager - 5.6%
AG#42 - Heritage Double Ale - 10.5%
On Tap:
AG#44 - Harvest ESB - 5.4%
AG#45 - Amarillo Gold APA - 5.2%
Conditioning:
AG#41 - Vienna Lager - 5.6%
AG#42 - Heritage Double Ale - 10.5%
On Tap:
AG#44 - Harvest ESB - 5.4%
AG#45 - Amarillo Gold APA - 5.2%
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Re: AG#35 - Haunted Galleon (Ghost Ship v1)
MB,
Buy one of these and you can nip back and fore the keggerator and enjoy your Beer!
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WA
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Buy one of these and you can nip back and fore the keggerator and enjoy your Beer!
https://ilandsafety.en.made-in-china.co ... nwear.html
WA
Sent from my Sofa.
Re: AG#35 - Haunted Galleon (Ghost Ship v1)
Seem to remember for Ghostship, Motueka hops should be in there somewhere!!! Suppose Amarillo is sort of close though.
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Re: AG#35 - Haunted Galleon v1
Have you thought about using a nice pair of jugs?Monkeybrew wrote: ↑Sun Nov 11, 2018 6:05 pm
That aside, it is a very moreish beer at the moment and I could have easily downed a couple more pints, but it was pi$$ing it down and my keggerator is in the garage which is a fair way from my house, so I decided to stay dry
I am "The Little Red Brooster"
Fermenting:
Conditioning:
Drinking: Southwold Again,
Up Next: John Barleycorn (Barley Wine)
Planning: Winter drinking Beer
Fermenting:
Conditioning:
Drinking: Southwold Again,
Up Next: John Barleycorn (Barley Wine)
Planning: Winter drinking Beer