American Pale Ale - Recipe Help

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Re: American Pale Ale - Recipe Help

Post by critch » Thu Dec 06, 2012 5:34 pm

i normally shove a few ibu's worth in at first wort to stop the bugger boiling over and split the rest between 10 mins with the protofloc and the rest at 0 for a 30 min steep(at your volume id do an hour) my bills 95%pale ale 5% wheat@1.039 for 10 imp galls youll be safe with 21g@fwh 60g@10 60g@0, it comes out quite bitter(utilising 13.85%aa hops) :D

ive done it all apart from the fwh@0 before and it was great, but logistically its easier for me to split up the additions to 10 & 0

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Re: American Pale Ale - Recipe Help

Post by seymour » Thu Dec 06, 2012 5:39 pm

critch wrote:i normally shove a few ibu's worth in at first wort to stop the bugger boiling over and split the rest between 10 mins with the protofloc and the rest at 0 for a 30 min steep(at your volume id do an hour) my bills 95%pale ale 5% wheat@1.039 for 10 imp galls youll be safe with 21g@fwh 60g@10 60g@0, it comes out quite bitter(utilising 13.85%aa hops) :D

ive done it all apart from the fwh@0 before and it was great, but logistically its easier for me to split up the additions to 10 & 0
An interesting approach; I love the simplicity of it. I could get behind everything except for the original gravity of 1.039.
A true-to-style American Pale Ale should be OG: 1.045 – 1.060.

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Re: American Pale Ale - Recipe Help

Post by critch » Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:03 am

its not about style its about what sells.....

its a damn sight harder to get rid of4.5-6% and a bit abv beers in in my little bit of england than a sessionable3.8-4.2%

if i dont sell i dont have a buisness :wink:

one of the nicest apa's over here is hophead by darkstar and thats 3.8%abv pale ale, touch of wheat a bloody ton of cascade and not a lot else......

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Re: American Pale Ale - Recipe Help

Post by orlando » Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:08 pm

I've got a lot of torrified but only a little wheat malt, is either OK?
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Re: American Pale Ale - Recipe Help

Post by killer » Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:23 pm

Ah Darkstar hophead ! What a beer - I miss it.
I was at a meet the brewer night in a pub near me in Paris. They had a 6.2% brewed in france APA. The french brewer (pissed of his face) told me they bittered it with Galena, then a load of chinook late hops. The malt bill was similar to critch's above. I suspect it wasn't dry-hopped. Was a top beer though - I have some chinook in my "to use" hops - I'm looking forward to it now.

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Re: American Pale Ale - Recipe Help

Post by seymour » Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:53 pm

critch wrote:its not about style its about what sells...
That makes perfect sense, and I'd do exactly as you do if I was in business. I only mentioned the arbitrary style guidelines because I think the OP is brewing for the Saltaire competition which I assume takes the American definition of American Pale Ale into consideration.
orlando wrote:I've got a lot of torrified but only a little wheat malt, is either OK?
Certainly. As far as we brewers are concerned, malted is always better, just more expensive. Torrified wheat gives perhaps a little extra body and head retention, but I like to include some oats for that purpose too.

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Re: American Pale Ale - Recipe Help

Post by critch » Fri Dec 07, 2012 3:43 pm

orlando wrote:I've got a lot of torrified but only a little wheat malt, is either OK?
theyll be fine orlando, munichs good too, the only reasons its there is to help with head retention :wink:

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Re: American Pale Ale - Recipe Help

Post by orlando » Fri Dec 07, 2012 5:10 pm

I'll put what wheat malt I've got in and "top up" with Torry.
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Re: American Pale Ale - Recipe Help

Post by louiscowdroy » Thu Jan 03, 2013 8:48 am

Whats the difference between Torry and normal wheat malt??

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orlando wrote:I'll put what wheat malt I've got in and "top up" with Torry.

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Re: American Pale Ale - Recipe Help

Post by orlando » Thu Jan 03, 2013 8:52 am

See Seymour's reply to me just above.
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Re: American Pale Ale - Recipe Help

Post by orlando » Thu Jan 03, 2013 8:52 am

See Seymour's reply to me just above.
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Re: American Pale Ale - Recipe Help

Post by seymour » Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:24 pm

According to homebrew guru Denny Conn:
Torrified Wheat has been heat treated (kind of "popped")to break the cellular structure, allowing for rapid hydration and allows malt enzymes to more completely attack the starches and protein. Torrified Wheat can be used in place of raw wheat in Belgian style Wit-Beers, also very good for adding body and head, especially to English ales. Since it has not been malted, you can't sub it for malted wheat. Because it's not malted, it needs to be mashed with a diastatic malt in order to convert the starches.
Word to the wise/thrifty: this is essentially the same process used to make Bulgur and Burghul cracked wheat, so if you are near to an international food store, this is an inexpensive alternative which works great in your brews.

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Re: American Pale Ale - Recipe Help

Post by louiscowdroy » Fri Jan 04, 2013 8:18 am

Thanks Seymour.

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Re: American Pale Ale - Recipe Help

Post by john_drummer » Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:06 am

how does one get involved in the Saltaire Brewery competition?

A) I like their beer
B) they're walking distance from my house!

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Re: American Pale Ale - Recipe Help

Post by BeerEagle » Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:53 pm

john_drummer wrote: they're walking distance from my house!
You lucky, lucky, lucky man (or was it just great planning?)

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