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prodigal2

Post by prodigal2 » Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:56 pm

I will also add I will be getting a bag of Gypsum to try when I visit a HBS next.

RabMaxwell

Post by RabMaxwell » Wed Oct 03, 2007 12:43 pm

Hello Prodical i get the grapefruit thing when using a lot of styrians that i am not to keen on. This is probably why i don't like Bitter & Twisted either. I already make good scottish ales by adding 30g of flaked calcium chloride to 110 litre brew. I have just barrelled a Bluebird clone with the water treated to Murphy's figures except i also added 5g of chalk to raise my mash ph got 5.2. You have probably read before that my water is extremely soft & i get low a mash ph. If your water is the same i would suggest when making darker beers to add the darker grains at the end of the mash before you start sparging.My hop flavour & aroma has improved since starting to use a hop-back at 80 0c lastly keep good records. By the way my Bluebird ale just kegged tastes very good but needs some ageing only started fermenting friday past. Hopefully the hop flavour should remain good with this one even after ageing as i used 675g of hops

prodigal2

Post by prodigal2 » Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:14 pm

DaaB wrote:
prodigal2 wrote:I will also add I will be getting a bag of Gypsum to try when I visit a HBS next.
I would post you some as I have too much although a bag of white powder in the post might not be such a good idea. If you need anything pm me.
Cheers for the offer DaaB, but I am about to go on a spree of work, and I will not be at home for a while. :roll:

I will also try a bottle some time today, as I am finding the flavour in the boxes vs bottles can be different. How I detect these things being a smoker I will never know :roll:

prodigal2

Post by prodigal2 » Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:58 pm

RabMaxwell wrote:Hello Prodical i get the grapefruit thing when using a lot of styrians that i am not to keen on. This is probably why i don't like Bitter & Twisted either. I already make good scottish ales by adding 30g of flaked calcium chloride to 110 litre brew. I have just barrelled a Bluebird clone with the water treated to Murphy's figures except i also added 5g of chalk to raise my mash ph got 5.2. You have probably read before that my water is extremely soft & i get low a mash ph. If your water is the same i would suggest when making darker beers to add the darker grains at the end of the mash before you start sparging.My hop flavour & aroma has improved since starting to use a hop-back at 80 0c lastly keep good records. By the way my Bluebird ale just kegged tastes very good but needs some ageing only started fermenting friday past. Hopefully the hop flavour should remain good with this one even after ageing as i used 675g of hops
Thank you very much Rab.
I must admit the Bluebird that I made with 100% Challenger has to date been my favorite beer with THA coming in a close second. And I have a feeling that due to both been brewed in soft water areas originally, they are beers that suit our water type.
And I have been wondering about darker ales, with adding the darker malts towards the end of the mash. Its something I will have a go at when I do a mild in the next few months. And I will also have another punt at the THA trying that with the roast barley.

Just a quick word about my water. Its fed from a spring that is used by most of the village, coming off a granite mountain, with highish levels of ferrous oxide and quartz to filter through. We have had tests done on the water for bacteria and it is safe though at some stage I must sort out a composition test, as unlike british tap water it will be fairly consistent on mineral content.

prodigal2

Post by prodigal2 » Wed Oct 03, 2007 2:02 pm

Ok so I have popped a bottle open, and what a difference in flavour and complexity compared to what I drew of my bag in a box.
Far more honeyed, orange blossom, quince with a pleasing level of bitterness.
I am now regreting not bottling the whole batch :roll: Oh well, live and learn

Vossy1

Post by Vossy1 » Wed Oct 03, 2007 6:00 pm

Bottles always seem to lose less flavour than ale matured and served in bulk.
I'd love to know the ratio of flavour loss so I could adjust my bulk ales accordingly, as sometimes the bottles turn out better :?

prodigal2

Post by prodigal2 » Wed Oct 03, 2007 6:34 pm

The thing is Vossy, this beer is not even 7 days out of the FV. And if some one offer me a pint of my boxes and a pint out of a bottle I would of assumed they where different beers :roll:

Vossy1

Post by Vossy1 » Wed Oct 03, 2007 7:16 pm

I know that difference...it's a shocker, isn't it :!:
Time makes it even worse and the bulk stuff to me becomes quite ordinary but the bottles remain 'well hard' :lol:

My solution...drink more quickly :roll: :lol:

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