Palmers 200 premium ale

[Shoit]

Hi there,

I was wondering if anyone had ever come across a recipe for Palmers (Bridport) 200 premium ale. I've had a search on the site and using google and can't find anything. Anyone be able to help out?

Thanks in advance

Kev

[Shoit]

Ok, guess no-ones got any further forward with this. Does anyone drink this beer and want to have a go at making me a recipe? I know that the brewery uses Maris Otter, English Goldings and Sjavinski Styrian Goldings. However, I haven't tasted the beer and have no idea what the balance of flavours is like?


Kev

[sdcspeak]

Ok, guess no-ones got any further forward with this. Does anyone drink this beer and want to have a go at making me a recipe? I know that the brewery uses Maris Otter, English Goldings and Sjavinski Styrian Goldings. However, I haven't tasted the beer and have no idea what the balance of flavours is like?


Kev

Greetings from Bridport !!! What kind of help would you like ?

If you are after someone to test drink your brew, I am your man, I will even have a go at making some for you. If however, you are after the official recipe, you are out of luck. "200" is a current brew and the recipe is a closely guarded secret.

You are right about the choice of grain and hops, you will also find crystal and wheat malts in there. A massive contribution to taste is made by the yeast which they use. Different yeast is used for the different brews, skimmed and recycled to the next batch of that particular beer. The yeast is now 1500 generations old !

FYI they don't bottle their own beer anymore, choosing instead to send the beer to Sharps Brewery (who make Doom Bar) who bottle it for them. This was a great thing for me as all my bottles, crown caps and crates came from them. I have even been able to blag the odd bit of yeast.

[Shoit]

Hi there,

Thanks for the reply, I wasn't expecting the 'official recipe' I was just looking for some ideas as to what goes into the beer so I could try and get close and maybe put together my own recipe! One of my mates loves the beer and wants me to have a go at putting it together. However, I haven't tasted the beer and can't as they use finings in the bottled beer, which I understand aren't actually in the final beer but it's something i'd still avoid out of choice.

So in answer to your question, I just wanted to have a go at putting together a recipe, if you want to have a go at that - great! If not, no problem! I'd be happy to send you a bottle or 2 for comparison if you could put something together! I'd have to mail them somehow as I'm in sheffield! However, my mate is going to Golden Cap this year so could send one or 2 with him. Let me know what you think.

Kev

[steve_flack]

If you are after someone to test drink your brew, I am your man, I will even have a go at making some for you. If however, you are after the official recipe, you are out of luck. "200" is a current brew and the recipe is a closely guarded secret.

I should have taken a photo of the recipe when I was last on a tour there. Up in the malt loft there was a laminated piece of paper with how many sacks of what went in each of their beers. Sadly it was tricky as I was the only person on that tour (apart from Bob the guide) so didn't want to put him in an awkward position (or jeopardise my tasting session!). From what I recall there is a slightly unusual malt in some of their beers - 'Imperial Malt'. I believe this is a Simpson's malt product but I've never seen it anywhere else. I've never seen Simpson's malt in the HB trade either.

http://www.simpsonsmalt.co.uk/jps.asp

[sdcspeak]

Hi there,

Thanks for the reply, I wasn't expecting the 'official recipe' I was just looking for some ideas as to what goes into the beer so I could try and get close and maybe put together my own recipe! One of my mates loves the beer and wants me to have a go at putting it together. However, I haven't tasted the beer and can't as they use finings in the bottled beer, which I understand aren't actually in the final beer but it's something i'd still avoid out of choice.

So in answer to your question, I just wanted to have a go at putting together a recipe, if you want to have a go at that - great! If not, no problem! I'd be happy to send you a bottle or 2 for comparison if you could put something together! I'd have to mail them somehow as I'm in sheffield! However, my mate is going to Golden Cap this year so could send one or 2 with him. Let me know what you think.

Kev

They do use finings, Isinglas to be exact, however this is just to speed up the process of clearing the beer, gravity will work just as well, but will take a much longer time to be effective. If you are not planning to drink it for a couple of weeks, you should be ok. A slight haze will not affect the flavour of the beer.

I don't need samples of "200", I have plenty !!! What I meant was, when you have had a crack at duplication, I would be glad to sample your brew

I will have a go at brewing up a "200", however I generally only adjust known recipes and have never tried to create of copy a brew from scratch before, so cut me some slack if it takes some time or goes horribly wrong !!!

[sdcspeak]

If you are after someone to test drink your brew, I am your man, I will even have a go at making some for you. If however, you are after the official recipe, you are out of luck. "200" is a current brew and the recipe is a closely guarded secret.

I should have taken a photo of the recipe when I was last on a tour there. Up in the malt loft there was a laminated piece of paper with how many sacks of what went in each of their beers. Sadly it was tricky as I was the only person on that tour (apart from Bob the guide) so didn't want to put him in an awkward position (or jeopardise my tasting session!). From what I recall there is a slightly unusual malt in some of their beers - 'Imperial Malt'. I believe this is a Simpson's malt product but I've never seen it anywhere else. I've never seen Simpson's malt in the HB trade either.

http://www.simpsonsmalt.co.uk/jps.asp

You are right, there is a laminated piece of paper in the grain loft, generally applicable to the next brew. All their malts come from Tuckers Maltings in Newton Abbott, Devon. Although the grain is the same and supplied to them by Tuckers who will malt it in the same way, they tend to mix the original supplier (farm, area etc), as the area and local conditions will have an effect on the flavour. This ensures that the flavour doesn't change too much if one of the originators can't supply at any time.

What you may have seen was the name of the "type" of maris otter, which would indicate it's origins, but who knows

[Shoit]

Hi there,

Thanks for the reply, I wasn't expecting the 'official recipe' I was just looking for some ideas as to what goes into the beer so I could try and get close and maybe put together my own recipe! One of my mates loves the beer and wants me to have a go at putting it together. However, I haven't tasted the beer and can't as they use finings in the bottled beer, which I understand aren't actually in the final beer but it's something i'd still avoid out of choice.

So in answer to your question, I just wanted to have a go at putting together a recipe, if you want to have a go at that - great! If not, no problem! I'd be happy to send you a bottle or 2 for comparison if you could put something together! I'd have to mail them somehow as I'm in sheffield! However, my mate is going to Golden Cap this year so could send one or 2 with him. Let me know what you think.

Kev

They do use finings, Isinglas to be exact, however this is just to speed up the process of clearing the beer, gravity will work just as well, but will take a much longer time to be effective. If you are not planning to drink it for a couple of weeks, you should be ok. A slight haze will not affect the flavour of the beer.

I don't need samples of "200", I have plenty !!! What I meant was, when you have had a crack at duplication, I would be glad to sample your brew

I will have a go at brewing up a "200", however I generally only adjust known recipes and have never tried to create of copy a brew from scratch before, so cut me some slack if it takes some time or goes horribly wrong !!!

I was acutally meaning I'll send you some samples of my brew so you can compare to the 'genuine article'. If you could have a go a putting together a recipe that would be great. Maybe then I could try another variation and see how close we can get!

Kev

[sdcspeak]

Hi there,

Thanks for the reply, I wasn't expecting the 'official recipe' I was just looking for some ideas as to what goes into the beer so I could try and get close and maybe put together my own recipe! One of my mates loves the beer and wants me to have a go at putting it together. However, I haven't tasted the beer and can't as they use finings in the bottled beer, which I understand aren't actually in the final beer but it's something i'd still avoid out of choice.

So in answer to your question, I just wanted to have a go at putting together a recipe, if you want to have a go at that - great! If not, no problem! I'd be happy to send you a bottle or 2 for comparison if you could put something together! I'd have to mail them somehow as I'm in sheffield! However, my mate is going to Golden Cap this year so could send one or 2 with him. Let me know what you think.

Kev

They do use finings, Isinglas to be exact, however this is just to speed up the process of clearing the beer, gravity will work just as well, but will take a much longer time to be effective. If you are not planning to drink it for a couple of weeks, you should be ok. A slight haze will not affect the flavour of the beer.

I don't need samples of "200", I have plenty !!! What I meant was, when you have had a crack at duplication, I would be glad to sample your brew

I will have a go at brewing up a "200", however I generally only adjust known recipes and have never tried to create of copy a brew from scratch before, so cut me some slack if it takes some time or goes horribly wrong !!!

I was acutally meaning I'll send you some samples of my brew so you can compare to the 'genuine article'. If you could have a go a putting together a recipe that would be great. Maybe then I could try another variation and see how close we can get!

Kev

[Shoit]

Don't worry, I probably wasn't clear. Let me know if you have chance to put something together!

Kev

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