Fullers ESB - anyone got a recipe?

Frothy · Post by **Frothy** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 10:18 pm

Grabbed a bottle of this from Tescos the other day & it's a stunner....

First brewed in 1971, ESB is unrivalled in terms of its flavour and balance. A powerful 5.5% a.b.v. in cask (5.9% a.b.v. in bottles and kegs), it is brewed from Pale Ale and Crystal malts, and from Target, Challenger, Northdown and Goldings hops. But don't ask us for the actual recipe - that's a closely guarded secret.

Andrew Jefford, the respected UK drinks critic, sums up ESB's flavour thus: ''an ample, grainy-nutty aroma and a broad, authoritative flavour, with lashings of dry marmalade-like bitters'', whilst 'Beer Supremo' Roger Protz describes ''an enormous attack of rich malt, tangy fruit and spicy hops in the mouth, with a profound Goldings peppery note in the long finish and hints of orange, lemon and gooseberry fruit''.

Has anyone got a recipe for this or something like it?
My main concern is how to replicate the hopping schedule?

Matt

Mr blue · Post by **Mr blue** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 11:12 pm

recipe I've got for ESB is

18.9l @1054
ibu 44

4.1kg pale malt
230g flaked maize
340g 55l british crystal malt
57g british amber malt
57g aramatic malt

24g target hops @8% 90 mins
14g challenger hops 15 mins
5 ml irish moss 15 mins
14g northern hops 10 mins
14g east kent goldings 1 min

yeast wyeast 1968

14g east kent goldings in secondary fermenter

steve_flack · Post by **steve_flack** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:16 am

From what I've seen, DaaB's recipe is closer to what it's reported Fullers use. The reported grists for Chiswick, London Pride and ESB are pretty similar - only varying by OG. Maybe they parti-gyle?

Orfy · Post by **Orfy** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:57 am

I like the simplicity of the top one. It's on my list. Thanks

Top is another hob Goblin then a Session Bitter, Brown Ale Then and ESB then a ..................

mysterio · Post by **mysterio** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:38 am

I brewed the recipe Mr Blue posted (its from Clone Brews) for my second all grain and it was good. The recipe Daab posted looks better, though, I reckon the full kilo of flaked maize will give it the character you're looking for. That recipe just looks much closer to what a commercial brewery would do.

Is this a potential 10 gallon candidate frothy?

Orfy · Post by **Orfy** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:55 am

Flaked maize. I read that people have used cornflakes as a substitute for this. What do you think?

mysterio · Post by **mysterio** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:59 am

I would be worried about all the other shite they put in cornflakes interfering with the yeast

Also I can't imagine a kilo of cornflakes being any cheaper than a kilo of flaked maize from the HBS.

Frothy · Post by **Frothy** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 1:13 pm

Brilliant... thanks for the recipes. I'm actually shocked that there are clones for this out there.
I like the look of the recipe MrBlues suggests esp' with the HopBack/ 1minute hop addition; but equally the recipe Daab suggests looks great although the IBU's are lower (EBU is the same as IBU right?)

Maybe I'll just have to brew both

I'm hoping to do a 38L brew sometime mysterio esp' as I've got most of
a 25kg sack of malt to use up (& 20kg of flaked maize but I think this keeps longer.) An idea is I could adjust the grain schedule from one recipe for a 38L brew (Daabs as I haven't the special grains) and boil it in 2 halves - one for each respective hop schedule?

Froth

deadlydes · Post by **deadlydes** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 1:59 pm

here is a recipe i have got in les howarths book

90% alexis and chariot pale
3% crystal
7% flaked maize

hops:
target, northdown and challenger
late hops
challenger, northdown and goldings

dry hops: yes
ibu: 35
og: 1054

iowalad · Post by **iowalad** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:45 am

Mine is similar to Daabs (I think both come from Wheeler)

25L
ABV 5.6%
OG 1054
31 EBC /16 SRM
35 IBU/EBU

5,350 g Pale Malt (I think Fullers uses Optic?)
180 g Crystal Malt
420 g Flaked Maize
34 g Black Malt

Hops

Start of the boil
20 g Taget
29 g Challenger

Last fifteen minutes of the boil
20 g Goliding

The recipe doesn't call for dry hopping but Fullers calls for it!

steve_flack · Post by **steve_flack** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:30 am

iowalad wrote: The recipe doesn't call for dry hopping but Fullers calls for it!

My understanding is that Chiswick and ESB are dry hopped in the cask, London Pride isn't.

norman · Post by **norman** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:05 pm

Real Ale Almanac derivative. 5gallon 75% efficiency
OPTIC PALE MALT 4704 gms
FLAKED MAIZE 360 gms
CRYSTAL MALT 156 gms

HOPS boil time 90 minutes
TARGET 15 gms
NORTHDOWN 14 gms
CHALLENGER 14 gms
Also in the boil 2 teaspoons BREWERS CARAMEL

10 gms each Target Northdown Challenger last 15 minutes.

WYEAST 1968 ESB yeast

norman · Post by **norman** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:07 pm

CORRECTION The above should read 10 gms each Challenger Northdown and GOLDINGS last 15 minutes.

iowalad · Post by **iowalad** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 11:47 pm

That is my understanding as well Steve.

Kit_Maker · Post by **Kit_Maker** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:27 pm

Going to give Daab's recipe a go but I don't have any flaked Maize.

Does anyone know if there is a substitute?

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Fullers ESB - anyone got a recipe?

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Any substitute for Flaked Maize?