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youreds91

Re: thought i'd share this, cheap foodgrade pump for sparge

Post by youreds91 » Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:10 pm

Had my first go with this today on a brew, very good. For the first time ever I've not lifted 20 odd litres of (sometimes boiling hot) wort around. I had a 12v/5v PSU that came with an IDE>USB connector for powering a hard drive, got a whole load of brass fittings from Toolstation & it's all good. No time to do pics today, but maybe on my next brew.

CD.

lewis1981

Re: thought i'd share this, cheap foodgrade pump for sparge

Post by lewis1981 » Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:51 pm

Hi

I have been looking at buying a pump and saw these, which one is best to buy 20/20 or 14/10?

thanks

Lewis

chivelegs

Re: thought i'd share this, cheap foodgrade pump for sparge

Post by chivelegs » Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:09 pm

lewis1981 wrote:Hi

I have been looking at buying a pump and saw these, which one is best to buy 20/20 or 14/10?

thanks

Lewis
I think they are both exactly the same except the hose connections. The 20/20 which i bought uses 1/2" bsp fittings which are dead easy to find.

danbrew

Re: thought i'd share this, cheap foodgrade pump for sparge

Post by danbrew » Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:08 pm

Anyone know anything about the flow rate at different voltages? I have emailed the company and not recieved a reply. I wanted to know if the lowest usable voltage did in fact deliver a flow rate of around the 1l/min mark...? (Considering a small rims/herms)

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Re: thought i'd share this, cheap foodgrade pump for sparge

Post by Gricey » Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:50 pm

Interesting. I've no pumps at the moment but will need to get a bunch of them for HLT (recirc/sparge), HERMS recirculation and kettle whirlpooling. I guess these tiny ones don't have the grunt for the whirlpooling, but has anyone used them successfully with HERMS (I'm sure the HLT usage is easy as pie)?

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befuggled

Re: thought i'd share this, cheap foodgrade pump for sparge

Post by befuggled » Fri Oct 29, 2010 8:05 am

See previous page!

Scotty

Re: thought i'd share this, cheap foodgrade pump for sparge

Post by Scotty » Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:07 pm

I've spoken to Peter about the 20/20 pump and they come in 3 different power outputs...

6W for 2m head
8W for 3m head
12W for 5m head.

I'm going to use the Maplin 1200mA AC adapter that some of you guys use. Could I use the 12W safely with this adapter?

R1ch

Re: thought i'd share this, cheap foodgrade pump for sparge

Post by R1ch » Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:27 pm

I'd have thought so, 12v at 12w is 1amp, so a 1.2amp supply should be ok.

Scotty

Re: thought i'd share this, cheap foodgrade pump for sparge

Post by Scotty » Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:29 pm

R1ch wrote:I'd have thought so, 12v at 12w is 1amp, so a 1.2amp supply should be ok.
That's what I was thinking. Either way, if it were to overload the adapter then all I would have to do is refrain from using it at 12v.

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flything

Re: thought i'd share this, cheap foodgrade pump for sparge

Post by flything » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:28 pm

Scotty Mc wrote:I've spoken to Peter about the 20/20 pump and they come in 3 different power outputs...

6W for 2m head
8W for 3m head
12W for 5m head.
Only the 6 (6.6W) version is listed on the website, which is what I bought, it's a bit weedy imo :(

Are you saying that if you call they can provide a 12w more powerful pump?

BrewChron

Re: thought i'd share this, cheap foodgrade pump for sparge

Post by BrewChron » Fri Nov 05, 2010 11:38 pm

The plastic and stainless steel versions of these pumps are used in the US for homebrew applications, but the really need a relief valve to pump well:

http://www.marchpump.com/documents/809-HS.asp

befuggled

Re: thought i'd share this, cheap foodgrade pump for sparge

Post by befuggled » Sat Nov 06, 2010 9:40 am

Brewchron, I think you should read the thread before posting - the pumps discussed here are around $40, not $250.

befuggled

Re: thought i'd share this, cheap foodgrade pump for sparge

Post by befuggled » Sat Nov 06, 2010 12:53 pm

For Beerkiss and if anyone else is interested:

Setup - ~200mm of 10mm copper tube with short piece of silicone tube to the inlet of pump, ~900m silicone (i.d. ~8mm) and ~300mm of 10mm copper return tubes to mash tun. "Plug top" power adaptor - 1Amp switched output, regulated type. Cold water. Zero head.

Pump voltage vs flow rate -
12 volts 3.2 litres per minute
9V 2.6 lpm
7.5V 2.2 lpm
6V 1.8 lpm
4.5V 1.3 lpm

I did not check the voltage or current. I suspect that the flow might be significantly higher through wider/shorter tube.
The pump stalls at 3.0 volts, so operation at 4.5 volts might be unreliable.
On my peeko system I control the flow rate by thottling the output from the Speck-8000, not by voltage control, so I am reasonably sure that you could leave this pump running at 12V and throttle it's output - maybe by squeezing the tube with a clamp?

leedsbrew

Re: thought i'd share this, cheap foodgrade pump for sparge

Post by leedsbrew » Sat Nov 06, 2010 8:49 pm

I just recieved the following email from Peter at Solar Projects regarding the different W pumps
Yes Neil, I have these pumps in three versions: 6 watt, 8 watt and 12 watt. If you would like a 12 watt then just order the SP20/20 on the web shop (see link below) and email me to at the same time to tell me which model to send. (Currently all the same price of £26)
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