Suggestions please
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Suggestions please
Ok, sothe winter warmer is done and looking like it is gonna be a good one.
The suspect batch is still looking suspect and my brother in laws finished the bitter and twisted 8 10 liters) at the weekend.
So i have 15 liters of kegs left. Empty and sounding sad.
I am hoping to get a brew on in the next week of so. Just enough to fill the kegs.
I would like something that is an easy drinking session beer than is not so strong ( not more than say 3.8%)
I have the following hops available.
target
styrian goldings
bobek
challenger
northdown
fuggles
goldings
I am thinking of maybe something with just pale malt ( maybe a tiny bit or wheat oats instead for head retention)
Anyone got any nice thoughts n this one.?
PS any excuses that i can use to persuade the wife to let me do it in the kitchen.......
Dave
The suspect batch is still looking suspect and my brother in laws finished the bitter and twisted 8 10 liters) at the weekend.
So i have 15 liters of kegs left. Empty and sounding sad.
I am hoping to get a brew on in the next week of so. Just enough to fill the kegs.
I would like something that is an easy drinking session beer than is not so strong ( not more than say 3.8%)
I have the following hops available.
target
styrian goldings
bobek
challenger
northdown
fuggles
goldings
I am thinking of maybe something with just pale malt ( maybe a tiny bit or wheat oats instead for head retention)
Anyone got any nice thoughts n this one.?
PS any excuses that i can use to persuade the wife to let me do it in the kitchen.......
Dave
Last edited by Deebee on Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:47 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Suggestions please
I'd be tempted to mash at quite a high temperature and put a tin of black treacle in the boil.
BT seems to give a nice satisfying taste to weakish beers.
BT seems to give a nice satisfying taste to weakish beers.
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Re: Suggestions please
Maybe...
But i need some kind of recipe first!!
Dave
But i need some kind of recipe first!!
Dave
Re: Suggestions please
Yes, i was using this comment as the basis for mine:
I am thinking of maybe something with just pale malt ( maybe a tiny bit or wheat oats instead for head retention)
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So from what i have worked out ( without beersmith at the moment)
Is that 1.8 kilo og pale malt at 75% efficiency will give me 4.1%
Thats ok for the brew length i want.
I am now just wondering about the hops. I'd like something that will be a real tasty one based on the hops i have available. At a low strength and using a safe bet safeale 04
I am thinking to use challenger for the 60 minute boil and then either bobek or styrian goldings as the aroma hops.
Until i get to beersmith i can't wok out the amounts.
I have some salvaged nottigham slurry, a dry pack of nottingham and some s--04
All beiong well i get to brew tomorrow evening.....
muhahahah
Is that 1.8 kilo og pale malt at 75% efficiency will give me 4.1%
Thats ok for the brew length i want.
I am now just wondering about the hops. I'd like something that will be a real tasty one based on the hops i have available. At a low strength and using a safe bet safeale 04
I am thinking to use challenger for the 60 minute boil and then either bobek or styrian goldings as the aroma hops.
Until i get to beersmith i can't wok out the amounts.
I have some salvaged nottigham slurry, a dry pack of nottingham and some s--04
All beiong well i get to brew tomorrow evening.....
muhahahah
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Re: Suggestions please
Digging in the hop fridge i find i have fuggles.
Ã…m now thinking of bitter this with fuggles and using aroma hops such as bobek or styrians.
Can someone give me a hand? Looking cv something around 28 i b u a 10 l brew at about 4 %
Ã…m now thinking of bitter this with fuggles and using aroma hops such as bobek or styrians.
Can someone give me a hand? Looking cv something around 28 i b u a 10 l brew at about 4 %
Re: Suggestions please
Why dont you use GW's Beerengine?Deebee wrote:Digging in the hop fridge i find i have fuggles.
Ã…m now thinking of bitter this with fuggles and using aroma hops such as bobek or styrians.
Can someone give me a hand? Looking cv something around 28 i b u a 10 l brew at about 4 %
Re: Suggestions please
Probably higher in IBU's than you want but what about this recipe from the archive?
Robbie the Elder (Runner up bitter up to 1039 South East Craft Brewing Festival 2008)
21lts
OG 1039
FG 1007
ABV 4.2%
IBU 40
Malts- 3.055kg Maris Otter
Hops-
25g Challenger 7%AA 60 min boil
25g Challenger 7%AA 30 min boil
25g Bobek unknown AA 5min boil
16g Styrians 3.9% AA 5 min boil
50g Bobek unknown AA at turn off and steeped for 30 min
Other-
Dried Elderflower 5g with 7 mins remaining of boil
Whirlfloc tab 15 min boil
Yeast-
Nottingham 15g sprinkled dry on top of wort
Mash Temp 66C dropped to 64C over 90 min so raised back to 69C for another 20 min. Total mash time 110 min PH 5.6
Boil 60 mins
Water Treatment- Campden Tab, CRS and DLS
Fermented at 16-20C in living room!
Brewed on 5th Oct, Bottled 17th Oct 2008
Robbie the Elder (Runner up bitter up to 1039 South East Craft Brewing Festival 2008)
21lts
OG 1039
FG 1007
ABV 4.2%
IBU 40
Malts- 3.055kg Maris Otter
Hops-
25g Challenger 7%AA 60 min boil
25g Challenger 7%AA 30 min boil
25g Bobek unknown AA 5min boil
16g Styrians 3.9% AA 5 min boil
50g Bobek unknown AA at turn off and steeped for 30 min
Other-
Dried Elderflower 5g with 7 mins remaining of boil
Whirlfloc tab 15 min boil
Yeast-
Nottingham 15g sprinkled dry on top of wort
Mash Temp 66C dropped to 64C over 90 min so raised back to 69C for another 20 min. Total mash time 110 min PH 5.6
Boil 60 mins
Water Treatment- Campden Tab, CRS and DLS
Fermented at 16-20C in living room!
Brewed on 5th Oct, Bottled 17th Oct 2008
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Re: Suggestions please
Yes i looked at this and have also considered a smaller version of Styrian stunner with the amount reduced to give me around the 4% mark.
Am still debating as to whether or not i should have some fuggles in to bitter and then blast the styrians in the last 20 ans then the last 5
I'll have to have a look at beersmith when i get the chance ( after i get home this evening all being well.)
Am still debating as to whether or not i should have some fuggles in to bitter and then blast the styrians in the last 20 ans then the last 5
I'll have to have a look at beersmith when i get the chance ( after i get home this evening all being well.)
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After much trial and reading of recipies i have decided on a play on the styrian stunner.
20 l
3650 pale
25 bobek for 60
15 styrian golding for 60
20 styrian golding for 15
15 styrian golding for 5
Ã…m wondering he i should up the last 5 minute amount to 25. Any thoughts please. Brew day friday.
thanks
20 l
3650 pale
25 bobek for 60
15 styrian golding for 60
20 styrian golding for 15
15 styrian golding for 5
Ã…m wondering he i should up the last 5 minute amount to 25. Any thoughts please. Brew day friday.

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Right now it's 27.6
the stunner was 28 based on the figures from the recipe. Mine is based on 70% so i think i'll up the bobek to 30 and the last one to 20.
Should be nice.
the stunner was 28 based on the figures from the recipe. Mine is based on 70% so i think i'll up the bobek to 30 and the last one to 20.
Should be nice.
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Agreed. In my, albeit worthless opinion, with that IBU there is room for plenty more late hops 

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Acording to Beersmith the style of beer has an IBU range of between 20 and 45. I have lots of room. However i would lke this one fresh too. Not too bitter but tasty. might use nottingham for it in that it will allow the hops to come through better than the other choice i have of s-04