Muntons Premium Gold Yeast

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Buzz

Muntons Premium Gold Yeast

Post by Buzz » Wed Oct 31, 2007 4:20 pm

I've used this yeast with many kits over the years but I was wondering if it's any good with AG brews? - I'm not doing many kits anymore and I've got a few packets left over.

I guess I could just give it a go but I'd be interested to hear from anyone who has experience with it in AG's.

I was also going to get some Turbo Cider on the go - would it be any good for this or, would be best to use a specific cider yeast?

Crossbow

Post by Crossbow » Wed Oct 31, 2007 5:08 pm

I've used it for an AG (only once so far) and found it excellent, beer was absolutely crystal clear coming out of primary, and I plan on using it for my next AG too.

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Post by CrownCap » Wed Oct 31, 2007 5:44 pm

Haven't used it in AG, but I've found that it whilst it does floc pretty quickly it doesn't produce the most stable sediment. Of the yeasts I've tried Nottingham seems to be slightly better, S-04 sticks like glue and Brewferm lager just got lonely and insisted on coming out of the bottle with the beer! :roll:

Buzz

Post by Buzz » Wed Oct 31, 2007 5:56 pm

Interesting, I've only used S-04 in my two AG's to date. One was a nightmare but, that was down to my inexperience and the second one is looking a treat.

Might give the munton's a go next time then and see how it compares. If the sediment isn't that stable I guess I should barrel rather than bottle. (I always found the kit's I bottled to be pretty lose in the bottom too).

Thanks for the feeback. Anyone have any views on the cider?

Bryggmester

Post by Bryggmester » Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:45 pm

As far as TC yeast goes you should get an acceptable result with Muntons but Youngs cider yeast, or even better White Labs cider yeast, will produce better results. More cidery with a better apple taste.

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Post by StrangeBrew » Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:54 pm

S-04 sticks like glue
From past expirience I would agree but 6 pints I bottled of a Nelsons Revenge brewed with Safale04 are very loose and easily disturbed. The rest went in a keg so hopefully it'll stay put when pouring the last few pints. :roll:

David Edge

Post by David Edge » Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:22 pm

If the sediment isn't that stable I guess I should
...

- avoid fluffy bottoms by using copper finings at the recommended dose
- assist flocculation by adding calcium

Nottingham/Muntons Gold and S-04 perform well in competitions and that suggests good flavour and sedimentation. US-05 and S-33 need more patience (euph).

Remember to rack and let the stuff settle before bottling - you don't need a millimetre of yeast in the bottom of a bottle!

Maltloaf

Post by Maltloaf » Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:30 pm

MPG is my standard yeast for all sorts of AG brews. I find it works very reliably, ends up fairly well attenuated and sticks to the bottom of bottles very well (I normally bottle).

I've used Nottingham occasionally and it might attenuate bigger beers a bit more but there's not much in it. MPG gets most things down to 1008 - 1010 range.

I only used S04 once, but the sediment didn't stay stuck so I haven't used it again. I guess the beer was good though, as I remember being annoyed with the sediment!

You don't get much yeast character from MPG (I've been playing with T58 recently - had a belgian moment at Beers of Europe :D ) which makes it good for other brews too. I've done things with honey and apples and it's behaved ok, it merrily took 2 gallons of honey botchard down from 1053 to 1001.

Hope that helps,
(get brewing!)
ML.

Buzz

Post by Buzz » Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:06 pm

Thanks all, most helpful. :)

agentgonzo

Post by agentgonzo » Thu Nov 01, 2007 12:53 pm

Muntons gold is my dried yeast of choice. It doesn't need rehydrating which is one step less to worry about, both with hassle and sanitation.

As people above have said, very good flocculation and taste. I don't bother fining mine, so am very pleased with the results. I've repitched it several times with great results. I think that 5 was the most - after that, I didn't want to try more just in case. It's only about £1.25 a sachet so why tempt fate?

David Edge

Post by David Edge » Fri Nov 02, 2007 7:36 pm

Muntons gold is my dried yeast of choice. It doesn't need rehydrating
The marketing manager who decides what is printed on the packet decided that was what he'd print. It's significant that Fermentis put one set of instructions on their 11g packets for homebrewers and another for micro brewers on the 500s. They assume that the typical homebrewer would make a mess of rehydration (cleanliness, temperature) and advise sprinkling. Fair enough, it works.

Recall the tale of the fellow who complained to the kit supplier
that fermentation hadn't started. They sent a second packet of yeast, still no life. Next time he called they asked exactly what he had done. "I put the packet of yeast in the wort as the instructions say".

Gervin English Ale (like all Gervin yeasts) does at least identify the strain. NA stands for Nottingham Ale not 'Not Applicable' as some might have imagined. It is repackaged from bulk in the UK.

An informed source reports the performance of Muntons Gold increased greatly when they got the original Canadian manufacturer to sachet it for them instead of repackaging it in the UK.

Anyway, we may soon know for sure which brands are Nottingham - a student ptoject at a UK University is doing some DNA analysis of home brewing yeasts.

David Edge

Post by David Edge » Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:08 am

An informed source reports the performance of Muntons Gold increased greatly when they got the original Canadian manufacturer to sachet it for them instead of repackaging it in the UK.
However I see the stuff is labelled 'Made in the EU' which suggests it (now) comes out of Fermentis's Croatian or Belgian factory...

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