Kit Instructions...What they dont tell you.

Discuss making up beer kits - the simplest way to brew.
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Post by Reg » Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:09 am

Don't forget:-

It's a impossible to properly clean a bottle without a £2.50 bottle cleaning brush.

It's perfectly possible and indeed sensible to use domestic containers. I wouldn't be without my 3 gallon, twin-handled stock pot. This is because it has the great advantage that I can also use it as a 3 gallon, twin-handled stock pot.

Yeast starters work wonder, work wonders, work wonders.

Hop teabags split, muslin doesn't.

The easiest way to clean a syphon tube is by syphoning sterile solution with it.

Definitely do not start that process by sucking on the syphon.

It may be better to throw the yeast you have with the kit away and settle for one with known properties and prefeable one that settles firmly when working with a short basic syphon tube to ease the process of syphoning beer.

If you have a firmly settled yeast, there is nothing to stop you form using a tapped fermentation vessel to transfer the beer provided you wash the tap with sterile solution before transfer.

Cleaned and strilised beer kit tins, (the kind with the tupperware lid), make excellent hop storage vessels.

If you really want to make all these fruit liquers that they sell in one bag kits, throw the kit away and buy inexpensive spirit, the fruit of your choice and one of those storgae jars with the rubber seal that closes like the top of a Grolsch bottle. E.G. Cherry Brandy. Cheap supermarket brandy, pitted cherries, jar. Also the fruit make a lovely treat afterwards or can be added to a fruit salad to spice things up.

If making a white wine kit that demands a little suagr. Try vanilla sugar which can be made with the jars described above, sugar and a vanilla pod. Some white wines like Cab Sauv have natural hints of vanilla in their flavour which are lost in concentrating the grape juice, you can replace these in this way.

I could probably go on all week, but that's enough for now. :D

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Post by Andy » Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:14 am

QUOTE Definitely do not start that process by sucking on the syphon.

What is everyone's preferred syphon starting mechanism ?

I tried a (sanitised) plastic BIC/similar pen body inserted into the end of the syphon tube and sucked on the pen body to start the syphon. Then quickly remove the pen body and dunk the tubing into the destination container. Was a bit of a faff and resulted in a bit of turbo cider spillage (not much) :lol:

Whaddyalldo ?

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Post by Reg » Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:22 am

QUOTE (andy @ Jan 25 2006, 09:14 AM) QUOTE Definitely do not start that process by sucking on the syphon.

What is everyone's preferred syphon starting mechanism ?

I tried a (sanitised) plastic BIC/similar pen body inserted into the end of the syphon tube and sucked on the pen body to start the syphon. Then quickly remove the pen body and dunk the tubing into the destination container. Was a bit of a faff and resulted in a bit of turbo cider spillage (not much) :lol:

Whaddyalldo ?
Sterilise a syphon tube...

Drop all bar a few inches into the beer avoiding disturbing the yeast...

Cover the end with a sterile rubber bung...

Move the tube over the new vessel which is of course lower then the other...

Remove the bung...

Contemplate the miracle of gravity...

Say "Om!"

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Post by Andy » Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:23 am

Doh! I'd forgotten the Om!

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Post by Reg » Wed Jan 25, 2006 12:54 pm

Well in truth I do use my finger, but one's fingernails can hold more bacteria underneath them than a fly! So I thought I'd suggest the best practice method I was originally shown... :unsure: (...and yes I do wash and sterilise my hands).

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Post by Andy » Wed Jan 25, 2006 12:56 pm

Does a fly have fingernails ? :unsure:





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Post by quaffter » Sat Jan 28, 2006 3:23 am

Daab, Reg,
My first lesson and l have only read 2 posts.

I suck on the siphon tube and stick my finger over the end :o :blink: :unsure: .
My god what have l introduced to my brews :blink: .
Where have mee fingers been :unsure: B) :blink: , dont say :ph34r: .

Sounds very complicated, Daab, you always come up with useful items, any for this like a suction machine/pump/ball.
Cheers,
quaffter ;)

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Post by quaffter » Sun Jan 29, 2006 3:23 am

Daab,
Got your drift and thanks very helpful as per usual.
Will give it a try on the next batch which is nearly ready (Turbo Cider).
Cheers,
quaffter :D ;)

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Post by johnmac » Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:04 pm

QUOTE Hopefully we can eventualy come up with the definative list.



..............................................................Start of List.............................................................


My contribution:

Make sure the can opener is clean - dishwasher then bleach. I keep a seperate can opener for homebrew.

It wouldn't be a bad idea to steralise the outside of the can(s) before opening them.

Steeev

Post by Steeev » Fri Apr 07, 2006 12:51 pm

QUOTE (quaffter @ Jan 28 2006, 01:23 AM)Daab, Reg,
My first lesson and l have only read 2 posts.

I suck on the siphon tube and stick my finger over the end :o  :blink:  :unsure: .
My god what have l introduced to my brews :blink: .
Where have mee fingers been :unsure:  B)  :blink: , dont say :ph34r: .

Sounds very complicated, Daab, you always come up with useful items, any for this like a suction machine/pump/ball.
Cheers,
quaffter ;)
If it's any help, I used to use these type of syphons for preparing media in the lab.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2-x-Brand-New-Syp ... otohosting

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Post by Steeev » Fri Apr 07, 2006 1:17 pm

You're right there!
Especially when it comes to trial jar-filling time - saves the constant resterilisation.
If only I'd read the advice on keeping spare yeast a week ago... :D

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Post by shaunmarrison » Thu Jun 22, 2006 5:32 pm

2 Questions:-

1. Do you add the campden tablet to the brew, or add it to the water prior to adding it to the wort? If the latter, how long do you have to wait? (I'm thinking of using a King Keg with Water & Campden tablet overnight, then make up the Brew in the fermentation brew the next morning)

2. In your instructions link, I see your Primary Fermenter has a siphon tube on the tap. Do you not add this tubing when you transfer to Secondary? If not, I'm guessing it sits there in sterilising solution for the 5-10 days of primary fermentation??? (I know it's a small point, but I'm doing my first brew at the weekend and want to try and eliminate as many possibilities for error as possible!)

Thanks,

Shaun

Vossy1

Post by Vossy1 » Fri Jul 07, 2006 7:20 pm

Daab or anyone... I've just taken a sample of my Fixby Gold, its been in primary ferment for 5 days. Its already tastes good :D

I've got a primary bucket with a tap fitted. I took the sample via the tap and got a load of sediment for my troubles.

The beer is still fermenting, it was even bubbling in the galss.

My question is, does the sediment normally compact over time (I'm going to leave it possibly another 5 days) so its not drawn into my bottles?

Will I have to transfer into a secondary and add finnings, bottling when clear?

I'm going to mature for 4 weeks in the bottle, will the sediment (if any) settle out?

I drink lots of bottle conditioned beer (Hens Tooth, Youngs Champion etc) and they always have plenty of sediment in the bottom of the bottles.

Vossy1

Post by Vossy1 » Fri Jul 07, 2006 11:36 pm

Thanks once again Daab, I will follow your advice ;)

I know what you mean about the murky lava lamp thing. I've just finished a turbo cider (well I thought I had). No bubbles through the airlock for 2 days and the top 3" of the demijon clear.
I added some finnings to help the clearing along, put the demijon in my camping fridge at 13 deg c, came to check it the next day and its started fermenting again, albeit slowly :o .

Lovely lumps of crud flying towards the surface emiting a trail of sediment on both the way up and down....fab :(

ttfn

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Post by Vossy1 » Sat Jul 15, 2006 10:16 am

Bru Paks yeast, why re hydrate at 38 - 40 deg c but only pitch active yeast at 25 deg c.

I should know the answer but don't, too much beer over too long a period of time :P :D and far too long since I've been to college!

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