boiling water

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DRB

boiling water

Post by DRB » Sun Aug 20, 2006 12:58 pm

Will boiling the water up for a kit and letting it cool rid it of chlorine or keep it in.

jasonaustin

Post by jasonaustin » Sun Aug 20, 2006 1:06 pm

Yes. But it won't remove chloramine, which is more likely these days to be the form that chlorine is present in your water in. If you have any campden tablets, add half a tablet to 5 gallons. This will remove chloramine (and chlorine) (and you don't need to boil).

shaunmarrison

Post by shaunmarrison » Sun Aug 20, 2006 1:37 pm

I'm really sensitive to the smell and taste of chlorine & 1/2 Campden Table worked perfectyl for me.

I'm sure boiling isn't a good idea for another reason - you'll decrease the amount of dissolved oxygen in the water.

DRB

Post by DRB » Sun Aug 20, 2006 2:43 pm

Just looked on the tips section on the instructions, and it says you,ll get better taste and head on the beer if you boiled the water and let cool,and then add the yeast when temp down to required temp i,ll guess i`ll go with that then ,thanx for the info anyway.

AT

Post by AT » Sun Aug 20, 2006 3:30 pm

it is a pain in the arm boiling all that water and waiting a week for it to cool properly but i do it every time, cause that's how i was lead to believe is the best way and it works like a dream. I'd be interested to hear a few more views on this subject.

DRB

Post by DRB » Sun Aug 20, 2006 4:45 pm

Knot so bad boiling water for this kit its only a9 litre kit

AT

Post by AT » Sun Aug 20, 2006 6:12 pm

yea but think how fast you'll have it finished :beer at only 9 litres you must be hoping it's a fairly decent kit?

AT

Post by AT » Sun Aug 20, 2006 7:02 pm

So DaaB would you say it's better to boil?

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Post by Horden Hillbilly » Sun Aug 20, 2006 8:24 pm

Personally, I filter my water using the water gem system. It is claimed to remove chlorine & chloramines as well as pesticides, organic compounds,etc. Before I used to filter using a jug type from a chain store, what a pain to filter 5+ gallons, it took ages! I also use the water gem for tea/coffee/drinking water, it was one of the best buys I ever made, it is also easy to fit, I have no plumbing skills at all & still had it working after 1 hour.

If you are interested here are some info links.

http://www.hopandgrape.co.uk/admin/cata ... e=0&page=1 andhttp://www.aquacure.co.uk/ourproductsfs.htm

AT

Post by AT » Sun Aug 20, 2006 8:41 pm

i bought a house with a water filter system already installed, i haven't moved in yet i wonder will it be good enough to brew with the water without boiling cause that would be great

DRB

Post by DRB » Sun Aug 20, 2006 9:15 pm

The kit is brewferm abbey doing it for christmas should be really nice by then strong though so have to take it easy when drinking.Regarding the water the fella in the hbs said to leave the water 24 hours in the fermenter and that`ll get rid of the chlorine,is it wise to do it this way.

AT

Post by AT » Sun Aug 20, 2006 10:33 pm

aghhhhhhhhhh i've been wasting hours boiling and cooling water doing kits. Suppose it's good i found out now rather than later

shaunmarrison

Post by shaunmarrison » Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:50 am

How much does it cost of boil 25 Litres of water? It takes 3.5 mins for my 2000W Kettle to boil 1.5L of water.

If my monday morning maths are correct, at 15 p kWh that works out at....

32p for 25L (that's using water at room tmeperature from my water filter), so I reckon it's about 4 minutes for cold water from the tap, which is 37p.

Another thing: How much stiring do you need to get the Oxygen back into the water? And if the water isn't cold, then surely it's going to be harder to get enough dissolved back in?

I know that fish at my local Carp Lake have died due to low O2 levels caused by the mini heat waves we have had, so a rise in temp of only a couple of degrees has a massive effect

Anyone have an oceanography degree & can tell us???

Vossy1

Post by Vossy1 » Mon Aug 21, 2006 10:36 am

Not got the degree but do know a bit about the fish aspect.

Persistant hot temperatures (25 deg plus) and no wind are a deadly combination for fish depending on depth of water. If the period of time is extended then lower "hot" temps can also have the same efect.

The ability of water to hold oxygen is reduced as temperature increases. Give a carp pond a good wind on a very hot day and the fish will be unaffected. This is due to the wave action absorbing oxygen into the water.

It also depends on the bioburden in that particular ecosystem. Rotting detritus, ie, dead leaves etc will also not help in the matter.

I went to France fishing last year and the pond had an aerater on it. Basically a big petrol motor with large paddles attached to the driveshaft, it ran 24/7 and the guy hadn't lost any fish, whereas locally there were plenty of fishy fatalities.

There must be a useless graph somewhere on the matter, of in search.

shaunmarrison

Post by shaunmarrison » Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:47 pm

DaaB, I'm sure I've read somewhere that typical "Filter Jug" filters was bad beacuse they add salts to the water, which is deterimental to the brewing process?

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