Im planning a 10G batch tomorrow night of either fullers ESB or LP, i have been looking around the site for recipes and found quite few for both (quite a bit of difference in the recipes). I've brewed the LP twice before and know i can brew something v. tasty when attempting a LP clone.
Never having tasted ESB i really don't have a clue which recipe will do the best job of recreating it. Is there any consensus on a good ESB clone out there or even a clone recipe that people know makes a good beer?
What would you rather have 10G of sitting about the house ESB or LP?
ESB or LP
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oblivious
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delboy
I don't have any amber either, by the time i dropped it and the mild it would probably be an altogether different beast.oblivious wrote:He is my one. oblivious you can drop the mild malt
O.G 1.052-55
21 litres
Maris Otter 2.8kg
Mild ale 1.9kg
Crystal 330 grams
Amber 150grams
Hops
First gold
60 min 25g (7%)
10 min 25g (7%)
01 min 25g (7%)
Dry hopping with either EKG or First gold
Yeast
WLP002 (2 liter starter)
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delboy
What about this for a 8 Gallon (2 cornie) batch (adapted from one i think DaaB posted not sure if it was a DL or GW or even one of DaaBs own recipes).
MO 6.8 kg
Maize 1.5 Kg
Crystal 0.8 Kg
Mash at 67 C with a seperate cereal mash for the maize
90 mins
Target 24g (10 %)
Challenger 26g (5.6 %)
Nz Hallertau aroma 26 g (7 %) no northdown, so this as a substitute.
15 mins
EKG 30g (4.1 %)
Demera sugar or inverted sugar added to the boil (if the gravity is too low).
WL002 yeast.
Dry hop (whatever i have handy).
MO 6.8 kg
Maize 1.5 Kg
Crystal 0.8 Kg
Mash at 67 C with a seperate cereal mash for the maize
90 mins
Target 24g (10 %)
Challenger 26g (5.6 %)
Nz Hallertau aroma 26 g (7 %) no northdown, so this as a substitute.
15 mins
EKG 30g (4.1 %)
Demera sugar or inverted sugar added to the boil (if the gravity is too low).
WL002 yeast.
Dry hop (whatever i have handy).
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delboy
Yeah its about 16 % of the total.DaaB wrote:That's a lot of flaked maize for an English ale imo and i'd go for some English hops to finish (you could add some more challenger if you don't have anything else). Just some thoughts anyway.
I might actually leave the ESB and have another bash at the london pride, when i think about it the reduced amount of grain in the mash tun for an LP clone will make the sparging less of an ordeal for this size of a brewlength.
Also i quite fancy trying the historically hopped version with goldings and fuggles (dave line version) which colinkleb thinks so much of.
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Martin the fish
The label on the back of my ESB bottle says
'ESB's rich malty notes are balanced by a unique blend of Northdown, Target, Challenger and Goldings hops'.
But to me it tasted worse than a bottle of 6X i had recently, regardless of hops. I was very very disappointed to say the least. Especially as i used to love ESB.
Perhaps they just flick of the crap stuff to the 'colonies' as DaaB put it.
'ESB's rich malty notes are balanced by a unique blend of Northdown, Target, Challenger and Goldings hops'.
But to me it tasted worse than a bottle of 6X i had recently, regardless of hops. I was very very disappointed to say the least. Especially as i used to love ESB.
Perhaps they just flick of the crap stuff to the 'colonies' as DaaB put it.