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MightyMouth

Post by MightyMouth » Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:53 am

BarnsleyBrewer wrote:Yeh, good luck with your brewing, I can also well recommend Barley Bottom ingredients!

John
Thanks. Yea Paul at Barley Bottom has been great.

ade1865

Post by ade1865 » Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:24 pm

Which MMO? I'm an EVE man myself. And I'll be going AG at some point, so its not too OT lol.

Witchfinder General

Post by Witchfinder General » Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:13 pm

I have to ask why people use PH strips for brewing? I've never used them and I have to ask if people 3000 years ago used them? I've done at least 40 mash brews in the past 5 years using the most basic equipment. But every time I get on this forum I start to believe I need something more.

llannige

Post by llannige » Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:21 pm

You seem to have everything covered MM.I came through my first A.G last weekend.You seem to have done the spadework.
Other than a bit stressed at times,it went O.K.

I'm sure all will be well.

All the Best.

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Post by Jim » Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:38 pm

Witchfinder General wrote:I have to ask why people use PH strips for brewing? I've never used them and I have to ask if people 3000 years ago used them? I've done at least 40 mash brews in the past 5 years using the most basic equipment. But every time I get on this forum I start to believe I need something more.
You must buy something shiny....you must buy something shiny.... :lol:

Obviously you can brew beer without using any modern technology, but some people like mucking about, that's all. :wink:
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Post by Witchfinder General » Fri Apr 25, 2008 6:49 pm

:lol: Yes I know that's just how I feel. In fact I keep thinking I'm missing out on something and must go and buy something else. But just to ask, why do you need PH strips? I know from my Chemistry lessons at school they were used to test for Acid or Alkaline in a solution. But what could you do about it if your brew was too acid? Add more water perhaps, then that would affect the origianl gravity. Someone tell me quick.

fivetide

Post by fivetide » Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:24 pm

You can add solution called PH Up and PH Down. I used a strip on my first brew to find out the acidity of my water and both times to check the mash was in the 5.2 region, but I probably won't bother again until I get some adverse effect that someone on the forum believes might be attributed to imbalanced mash PH.

I got hundreds of strips for about £1.50 on eBay though so it was worth it just to tinker a bit.

The "they didn't do that in the old days, why bother now" theory is sound in principal, but I'm not so sure 'their' beers were necessarily all that great when they brewed without hops round the back of some stables in open vats with pigeons roosting overhead etc... :=P

You 'can' do everything like they did 500 years ago, but then again, they had appalling life expectancy, didn't they! I guess the biggest factor was that you were more likely to get a bad tum and head than cholera if you drank fermented beer rather than water.

MightyMouth

Post by MightyMouth » Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:45 pm

ade1865 wrote:Which MMO? I'm an EVE man myself. And I'll be going AG at some point, so its not too OT lol.
Currently LOTRO but was thinking of getting back into EVE, I played in the beta and a few months after but it was just a bit lacking at the time, I've heard it is much better now.

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Post by MightyMouth » Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:47 pm

Witchfinder General wrote:I have to ask why people use PH strips for brewing? I've never used them and I have to ask if people 3000 years ago used them? I've done at least 40 mash brews in the past 5 years using the most basic equipment. But every time I get on this forum I start to believe I need something more.
The only reason I bought PH strips is just to see what my mash PH is. I probably don't need them or the 5.2 stabilizer but I hate not having something that I find I do need later.

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Post by MightyMouth » Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:49 pm

Witchfinder General wrote:But what could you do about it if your brew was too acid? Add more water perhaps, then that would affect the origianl gravity. Someone tell me quick.
You could add 5.2 stabiliser or not as you see fit, as I understand it there are other more complicated things you could do to bring the PH to around 5.3 but I dont know what they are off hand.

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Post by Jim » Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:51 pm

Yeah, mash pH is what it's all about.

If you have no problems, there's no need to bother, but if you have hazes, too much or insufficient residual sweetness or lack of body in your beer, it's worth checking that mash pH isn't to blame.

If it's wrong, it's often down to your water and suitable treatment can rectify the situation.
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Post by Witchfinder General » Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:24 pm

fivetide wrote:Y
The "they didn't do that in the old days, why bother now" theory is sound in principal, but I'm not so sure 'their' beers were necessarily all that great when they brewed without hops round the back of some stables in open vats with pigeons roosting overhead etc... :=P
Sounds just like my brewery :=P When I did a tour of the old Ridleys brewery in Essex, they fermented their beer in an open tank. There were spiders hanging over the brew like yoyos, Mice sitting on the edge of the tank reading books and frogs sitting on the bubbles on the top of the liquor.

Parp

Post by Parp » Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:16 am

My MMO History ;

Earth and Beyond
Everquest 2
World of Warcraft

Tried LOTRO - hated it.
Tried Tabula Rasa - was alright but same old same old.

Never played EVE, looks like a virtual life sort of thing :)

Cheers

macleanb

Post by macleanb » Thu May 01, 2008 7:49 am

I can highly recommend "obtaining" a brew-buddy (assistant brewer) !

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