Light and off flavours

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Light and off flavours

Post by Scroogemonster » Sat May 03, 2008 8:13 pm

Does anyone have an opinion on whether brewing in a darkened room as opposed to brewing in full daylight changes the flavour profile or causes off tastes in a brew?
I've read posts about leaving bottled beer in the light can cause "skunking", wondered if it affects the wort whilst fermenting? :?:

anomalous_result

Post by anomalous_result » Sat May 03, 2008 8:37 pm

Don't know the chemistry behind it but I'd wager for it to be a significant problem it would have to be prolonged UV exposure. Brewday pics on here suggest many brew outside in bright sunshine with no ill effect.

Parp

Post by Parp » Sat May 03, 2008 8:47 pm

I reckon the initial brew should be ok.

But fermentation, conditioning and final serving medium should be protected from light.

I've never had a problem myself, but my brews never seem to stick around long enough :=P

It's all about the hops I suppose, umpteen other things seem to affect hop flavour and aroma, carbonation, yeast type, time.

I'd consider myself in the 'brown bottle' brigade, just to be sure :?

delboy

Post by delboy » Sat May 03, 2008 9:38 pm

Its a problem i've experienced, 5G all grain batch and all the work that it entails down the sink :cry: Basically the alpha acids get damaged by UV and form sulphurous compounds (rotten eggs, smelly farts, stink bombs you get the idea).
Its a problem that only seems to rear its head with extract and all grain since we tend to get our bitterness/alpha acids from fresh hops rather than isomerised alpha acids that they seem to use in kits.

I would guess on brew day that the beer is protected by its sheer quantity, even a light coloured lager looks considerably darker in the bucket so obviously the light can't travel that far through it, also the wort isn't usually exposed for that long (maybe 90 mins).
However when fermenting it can sit about for weeks, and when bottled the light strike/skunking can be even quicker due to the small volume of liquid which allows UV light to penetrate right through it.

Long story short, probably nothing to worry about if using kits.

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Post by Aleman » Sat May 03, 2008 10:37 pm

Skunking can occur in 30 minutes, if you take a glass of beer and leave it in the sunlight . . . compare it with one kept in the dark . . . Definite change in aroma/flavour

Why doesn't it happen to wort as its being brewed? Don't know . . . I cover my boilers so that could be an explanation . . . . but I do pump transfer from the boiler to the FV through a PVC hose :?

Scroogemonster

Post by Scroogemonster » Sun May 04, 2008 12:24 pm

Cheers for that. I thought I might try the entire brewing and conditioning process in the garage as its dark and there is minimal temperature fluctuation. I'm using a thermostatic aquarium heater set to 18 degC.

I guess i'm just trying to standardise every possible variable in the brewing process in order to narrow down any errors that occur. If light and temp and aeration method/time are standardised for each brew then flavour differences can only be attributed to yeast performance or water profile?

For my next brew (Fixby Gold) I intend to use spring water to see what effect that has on the taste :wink:

delboy

Post by delboy » Sun May 04, 2008 1:58 pm

If you are concerned about lightstrike do what i and many others do, put a couple of bin bags over the fermenter, stops the UV getting to the beer :D

anomalous_result

Post by anomalous_result » Sun May 04, 2008 5:20 pm

Sorry yeah, my post took brewing to be just the act rather than fermentation too.

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