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Recipe

Post by Whorst » Tue May 06, 2008 5:34 pm

I'm trying to get used to the metric system. I've used pounds and ounces all my life. Tell me if this makes sense. I'm entering this in competition.

Englander Bitter courtesy of Whorst Starting O.G 1.035-1.038

3.6kg Maris Otter
228g 120L Crystal Malt
114g Special Roast

Don't have hops yet. Have to visit the home brew shop. I'm planning on using all English hops and dry hopping possibly with Cascade. Would 14g be enough for dry hopping, or should I go 28g? Recipe is for roughly 19L.

Cheers, Whorst

Whorst

Post by Whorst » Tue May 06, 2008 7:18 pm

I bought Brewers Gold, and I also have Glacier.

Whorst

Post by Whorst » Tue May 06, 2008 7:34 pm

Here's some info on glacier:

Glacier (6.0%)– This is an excellent new variety released in 2000. It has balanced bittering properties and a good aroma profile. Glacier is a substitution for Willamette, US Fuggle, US Tettnang and Styrian Golding. Beer styles: Pale Ale, ESB, Bitter, English-
Style Pale Ale, Porter, Stout.

mysterio

Post by mysterio » Tue May 06, 2008 8:28 pm

If you ask me, I would keep Cascade away from an English bitter, although it's a nice hop, the strong flavour is completely inappropriate for the style IMO. Cascade puts it instantly in the realm of American pale ale. If you're entering a competition I would definately hunt out some Fuggles, Styrian Goldings or East Kent Goldings for your late addition and/or dry hop. I'm sure the Glacier or Brewers Gold would work fine for the bittering. Try the likes of Adnams bitter, Brakspear bitter, Taylor's landlord etc. None of these have any sharp citrusy character, it's more a gentle earthy or floral hoppiness and some subtle yeast flavours.

Whorst

Post by Whorst » Tue May 06, 2008 8:35 pm

I didn't buy Cascades. I bought Brewers Gold because they're high alpha acid and they'll go along way. I do 60 minute boils. I've got 14g of BG at 45 minutes, 14g of Glacier at 30 minutes, and 7g of BG at 15 minutes. I will dry hop with probably a combo. Total IBU's is about 34. I plan on taking home the trophy with this whore!

Whorst

Post by Whorst » Tue May 06, 2008 8:47 pm

Cheers. No matter what the outcome, I'll post how I fared.

roger the dog

Post by roger the dog » Tue May 06, 2008 9:11 pm

Whorst wrote:I plan on taking home the trophy with this whore!
I say, steady on :lol:

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Post by iowalad » Tue May 06, 2008 11:17 pm

Whorst, you and Jamil think alike in your ordinarys! If you haven't send Jamil's take a look - http://beerdujour.com/Recipes/Jamil/Jam ... Bitter.htm
He will give you some ideas on mash temp and such.

What yeast are you going to use? I think in an ordinary you want to stay away from your old standby of US-5 and use an English strain. If you don't have time to experiment I would consider one like Fullers or Ringwood that leaves some body in the beer (although I am trying 1028 in my next ordinary).

I would tend to stick with English hops as well. If you want something different than the usual Challenger/Golding/Fuggles consider Bramling Cross or First Gold. Although if you do not have time to get a couple of experimental brews under your belt Challenger and or Goldings is hard to beat (if you can find them). You can get virtually any hops you want at Northern Brewer (provided your willing to pay for them).

Of course if BG and Glacier are set in stone forget the above paragraph. I have seen Brewers Gold in some English beers (at least as listed on the web). I think Crouch Vale has a seasonal with BG. I have never tried Glacier in a homebrew but if I was using it to get something fuggles or Styrian like I would use Fuggles or Styrians instead (admittedly getting harder to find).

If you have some info on your water consider tweaking your water for flavor with Graham's calculator.

Is the judging being done to BJCP standards (no real reason just trying to rile up the forum!)

Best of Luck

monk

Post by monk » Tue May 06, 2008 11:23 pm

I've used glacier once. It was nice, but did seem a bit citrusy. In that context, it's a good hop, though I like Cascade more if I'm shooting for citrusy.

Vossy1

Post by Vossy1 » Tue May 06, 2008 11:28 pm

Is the judging being done to BJCP standards (no real reason just trying to rile up the forum!)
:lol: :lol:

Whorst

Post by Whorst » Wed May 07, 2008 12:01 am

I bought White Labs, WLP005, British Ale Yeast. I made a nice starter this afternoon, so I'll be pitching a lot of cells. I've seen so many recipes for English beers that have everything but the kitchen sink thrown in. Basically malts I would never consider using. In the end I don't care what some judge thinks about my beer. Well see what happens, but I doubt I'll be entering competition again.

Vossy1

Post by Vossy1 » Wed May 07, 2008 12:33 am

In the end I don't care what some judge thinks about my beer.
It's you that's drinking it :wink:
Well see what happens, but I doubt I'll be entering competition again.
You never know, you might enjoy it :lol:
It's amazing how a few of the forum members have walked away with firsts, when not taking things too seriously.....well...that's what they tell us :lol: :P

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