Adding Black Treacle to a Coopers Stout

Mulberry · Post by **Mulberry** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:48 pm

I saw a post a while ago about adding black treacle to a Coopers Stout kit.
I quite fancied this and was wondering how much to put in. I normally add two bags of spraymalt to the kit - should I just subtract the weight of the treacle from that of the spraymalt.

Thanks.

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Adam · Post by **Adam** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:25 pm

Well i've been talking about the idea, and last night i worked out some christmas brew ideas and thought i better make a start.

Edme Irish Stout with Black Treacle is now in the fermenter:

Edme Irish Stout Can
Black Treacle Tin (454g)
1kg Light Spray Malt
Yeast Nutrient

Made up to just over 25 litre mark.
O.G. 1.044 (4 points over the same recipe without the black treacle)
Had to stir like the devil to get it all dissolved but the workout was good and its my second kit i have managed start to finish in about an hour.

Once this one is done i am bottling in PETs for Christmas.

its a different stout but the same idea, its an experiment but its fermenting just fine.

smiles
adam

Ditch · Post by **Ditch** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 2:07 am

Adam; Talking of Differences ..... Forgive me but, I take it " Black Strap Molasses " would be radically different, again from 'Treacle'?

Only, I'm sat here with some young as hell Coopers and the taste is just ecstatic! I'm genuinely blown away. I now plan to fetch in a small van load of this kit and get to work!

But, I use BSM in my tea and have a real feel for that taste too. I can't help but think others might appreciate it too, as a naughtily strong, specially poked up " End of an extra special, cold winters night " head wrecker. Something I may call; " Let The Rifles Rust! "

Any thoughts? Anyone?

Thanks

Adam · Post by **Adam** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:03 am

i've tried molasses in Turbo Cider (cheap brew that i have played with a lot) and it was too strog for the apples and needs ages to mellow. I like molasses and would consider them in a dark/heavy brew but by no means an expert. The treacle experiment is due to a fantastic keg of the same ingredients without the treacle and trying treacle ale (see other brews) which has finally come together. I thought the tastes from both could combine into some delicious winter warmer.

Ditch know that you are a "stout man" so i'd say have a go and if its not right, right away let it age. This stout is for Christmas : }

smiles
adam

Ditch · Post by **Ditch** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:35 pm

Cheers, mate. Actually, as soon as I say this, I'm back out in the kitchen for a bit more sanitisation work. I'm about to keg my (camdenless!) LDP. I'm thinking; That's got to be a rather dark brew. What if it tastes like all hell, because of the untreated water?

What would I have to lose by lacing it with some BSM? Food for thought?

It's no good, is it? I have this BSM / Stout idea So firmly fixated. I'm going to do something, one of these days. Just get a few more kits under my .....

Extract! now There's an area with potential for all this .....

pantsmachine · Post by **pantsmachine** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:43 pm

I used black treacle in my dark dragon ale a few months ago. Taste of the treacle was very dominant during the 1st month or so but mellowed nicely. In saying that i would not put a full tin of treacle into my next batch, maybe 2/3rds to get other flavours through and balanced. I know your stout will be darker and be able to mask the treacle better but all the same i'd restrict how much you put in. My orig recipe below

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Mulberry · Post by **Mulberry** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:38 am

Thnaks everyone - excellent advice as ever

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Adding Black Treacle to a Coopers Stout

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