No Secondary fermentation

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Post by macleanb » Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:29 pm

Possibly, or it could just be disolved CO2 coming out of solution... I know leeds it a bit further up't north, but your not in the artic circle. I also suspect you have a leak...

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Post by Ditch » Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:48 pm

:shock: Stop Taking That Beer! Forgive me ~ knee jerk, but ~ if it sucks air in, as the flow dries up? Ye beer'll be f*cked.

I'm into my second pint of Wherry now. Please treat What Ever I say after the first pint with deep suspicion. But I honestly believe I'm right there.

I'll leave clearer heads to unravel the gas thingy :?

alefric

Post by alefric » Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:00 pm

macleanb wrote:Possibly, or it could just be disolved CO2 coming out of solution... I know leeds it a bit further up't north, but your not in the artic circle. I also suspect you have a leak...
Seconded.......I'm 20 miles from you and it aint that cold....might not be valve seals could be the one in the lid,also you can't tell by looking. I had a similar problem with my first KK and my answer being cautious.......Change all the seals!.......the pressure you have should be much higher than you have after 3 weeks.

hope it comes right

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Post by Jim » Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:12 pm

You need to give it a chance! :wink:

Seriously, a week for secondary fermentation and conditioning is not long enough. Leave it another couple of weeks at least (now that you know ithe keg's holding the gas).

One thing; how much air space is there in the barrel? If there's very little, any pressure produced in it will dissipate to nothing as soon as you draw off a small amount of beer. You need that CO2 injector.

EDIT: Just re-read the thread and realised you haven't reprimed the barrel or fixed the leak yet. Do that first.
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Tidyguy

Post by Tidyguy » Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:25 pm

will order some new valves then. will i be able to change the valves without having to ditch the beer?any problems i should look out for?

alefric

Post by alefric » Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:31 pm

Tidyguy wrote:will order some new valves then. will i be able to change the valves without having to ditch the beer?any problems i should look out for?
You dont need a whole new valve. Your LHBS will probably stock seal sets and do remember to revaseline them all.....shouldn't be any problems but do the job PDQ.....If your struggling to obtain just seals try Things To Brew at Brighouse, they sell them all lose.

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Post by stevezx7r » Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:52 pm

First, does the beer taste "sweet"? If so, the sugar you've added hasn't gone through secondary fermentation. If it doesn't it points to a leaking lid/seal.

Use some vaseline on the the lid threads and "o" ring but keep it away from the beer as it will kill any head. Failing that, get some new "o" rings and use vaseline anyway.

Second, the cold temp will slow secondary/carbonation to a crawl. It may also seem like it has no gas but in fact the gas has been "squashed" into the beer due to the cold temp (think "lager"). Once warm, any c02 will come out of suspension and hey presto, pressurised barrel.

You could bring it in to warm up to around 15C max to speed carbonation up but as Jims says, it's only been a week or so - give it a few more to get it right. :wink:

Tidyguy

Post by Tidyguy » Mon Sep 15, 2008 1:42 pm

Its been going much longer than a week - about 4 now. doesnt taste much sweeter than a normal pint, so guess its the seals. are they easy to replace?

alefric

Post by alefric » Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:14 pm

Tidyguy wrote:Its been going much longer than a week - about 4 now. doesnt taste much sweeter than a normal pint, so guess its the seals. are they easy to replace?
Ish!

Tidyguy

Post by Tidyguy » Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:51 am

Could it be the priming sugar i used? Wasnt really sure what to be using, so used the remnants of my beer enhancer kit:(product ref 1493 on art-of-brewing.co.uk) thought that as this was good enough sugar for the beer it would be good enough to prime with: was i sadly mistaken?[/url]

Tidyguy

Post by Tidyguy » Thu Sep 18, 2008 2:47 pm

ok - just back from buying new seals. turns out it was the o ring that was leaking, replaced it, re-vaselined everything in sight and gave it a half second burst of co2. beers coming out at the speed of light now :D:D only problem is its still not fizzy. am i right in assuming im going to have to wait for the co2 to dissolve into the beer? how long would this take?

maxashton

Post by maxashton » Thu Sep 18, 2008 2:53 pm

Force carbonation with a plastic keg isn't going to be very quick. You'd almost be better off boiling up 50g of sugar and adding that to your brew for another week.

Tidyguy

Post by Tidyguy » Thu Sep 18, 2008 6:14 pm

done and dusted hopfully. tipped in some more dissolved usgar, resealed and checked for leaks again. everythhings looking good! just gonna be hard to wait a week. hehe. thanks for all your help guys

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