Price per pint

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confused

Re: Price per pint

Post by confused » Mon Nov 24, 2008 2:55 pm

not that I'm counting at all as I do it for the love of it.

That said i guess my last brew cost me something like 29.8254p per pint. roughly.

That includes ingredients, yeast, steriliser, finings, even the campden tablet. That is the precisely 36 pints that will go into two cornies. The numberous "tastings" from the fermenter are perks of the trade.

I don't take account of equipment, that's getting too pedantic, and we pay for water and 'leccy at a set price monthly, regardless of useage so I don't include anything for those either.

adm

Re: Price per pint

Post by adm » Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:09 pm

confused wrote:
I don't take account of equipment, that's getting too pedantic, and we pay for water and 'leccy at a set price monthly, regardless of useage so I don't include anything for those either.
How come you get a fixed price per month for the 'leccy ?

pantsmachine

Re: Price per pint

Post by pantsmachine » Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:13 pm

I would think one of the biggest ways to save on a brew would be splitting the yeast especially if using a liquid yeast at £5 per batch. I am going to try this with my next white labs belgian yeast but not sure if its better to do a 1/2 gallon wort starter and then split the resulting liquid into 5 seperate batches use 1 in the brew and store the other 4 in fridge in pet bottles or to use the whole phial in the brew and then harvest the yeast through washing post fermentation of the batch. Anyone got a best way forward on this one?

delboy

Re: Price per pint

Post by delboy » Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:23 pm

confused wrote: That said i guess my last brew cost me something like 29.8254p per pint. roughly.
:P :lol:

confused

Re: Price per pint

Post by confused » Mon Nov 24, 2008 5:35 pm

How come you get a fixed price per month for the 'leccy ?
we use a tarrif called staywarm. You pay a fixed price each month for all your gas and leccy. The price is based upon the house (number of bedrooms and whether it's detached, semi etc), the number of people living in the house and the amount of fuel you used the previous year, plus extras for heated swimming pool, heated greenhouse etc. Brewshed is not mentioned on the extras list, thankfully.

In truth it's no longer a good deal, I'm sure we could do better on a flexible tariff but the fixed price per month is handy.

kevthebootboy

Re: Price per pint

Post by kevthebootboy » Mon Nov 24, 2008 9:52 pm

Stonechat wrote:Unfortunately Kev did not set down what costs were to be applied in order to arrive at the "price per pint".
yeah sorry about that. :oops:

kevthebootboy

Re: Price per pint

Post by kevthebootboy » Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:09 pm

Chris-x1 wrote:
have any of you fellas worked out how much your pints cost per pint?
Are we talking financial or emotional ?
both and how much ear ache off the missus- per pint...or is that going too far?

adm

Re: Price per pint

Post by adm » Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:43 pm

confused wrote:
How come you get a fixed price per month for the 'leccy ?
we use a tarrif called staywarm. You pay a fixed price each month for all your gas and leccy. The price is based upon the house (number of bedrooms and whether it's detached, semi etc), the number of people living in the house and the amount of fuel you used the previous year, plus extras for heated swimming pool, heated greenhouse etc. Brewshed is not mentioned on the extras list, thankfully.

In truth it's no longer a good deal, I'm sure we could do better on a flexible tariff but the fixed price per month is handy.
Thanks. It's interesting - I didn't know anybody offered that kind of tarrif, although reading about it, like you say it's no longer such a good deal. I also don't have anyone over 60 living here, so couldn't get it anyway.

I was interested as I've recently been almost screwed over on heating oil prices. There's no mains gas here, so we have a 2000 litre oil tank and use a monthly set price budget scheme to pay for that. Last week, they delivered 1500 litres of oil and today I got the invoice for it - at 50.3 per litre. Seemed extortionate to me, so I called a few other providers to check costs and found out it averaged 39p per litre! That a big difference when you're buying 1500 litres. Anyway, I called the supplier and bitched at and threatened them until they repriced it at 40p. Thing is, as it's a monthly direct debit, I'm already in credit so I can't really switch supplier yet....

The good thing is that it has a wireless tank level gauge that telephones the tank level to the oil supplier, so at least you never run out. Before that, we had a few times when the oil ran out on the coldest day of the year, always on a Friday - and it takes a few days for suppliers to get more oil to you.

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Re: Price per pint

Post by BarnsleyBrewer » Tue Nov 25, 2008 7:52 am

adm wrote:
confused wrote:
How come you get a fixed price per month for the 'leccy ?
we use a tarrif called staywarm. You pay a fixed price each month for all your gas and leccy. The price is based upon the house (number of bedrooms and whether it's detached, semi etc), the number of people living in the house and the amount of fuel you used the previous year, plus extras for heated swimming pool, heated greenhouse etc. Brewshed is not mentioned on the extras list, thankfully.

In truth it's no longer a good deal, I'm sure we could do better on a flexible tariff but the fixed price per month is handy.
Thanks. It's interesting - I didn't know anybody offered that kind of tarrif, although reading about it, like you say it's no longer such a good deal. I also don't have anyone over 60 living here, so couldn't get it anyway.

I was interested as I've recently been almost screwed over on heating oil prices. There's no mains gas here, so we have a 2000 litre oil tank and use a monthly set price budget scheme to pay for that. Last week, they delivered 1500 litres of oil and today I got the invoice for it - at 50.3 per litre. Seemed extortionate to me, so I called a few other providers to check costs and found out it averaged 39p per litre! That a big difference when you're buying 1500 litres. Anyway, I called the supplier and bitched at and threatened them until they repriced it at 40p. Thing is, as it's a monthly direct debit, I'm already in credit so I can't really switch supplier yet....

The good thing is that it has a wireless tank level gauge that telephones the tank level to the oil supplier, so at least you never run out. Before that, we had a few times when the oil ran out on the coldest day of the year, always on a Friday - and it takes a few days for suppliers to get more oil to you.
Hi,
Just out of nosey curiosity, "how long on average will 1500 litres last?

John
"Brewing Fine Ales in Barnsley Since 1984"
- - - - - - - 40 years (1984 - 2024)- - - - - - -
Pints Brewed in 2024......... 104
Pints brewed in 2018.. 416
Pints brewed in 2017.. 416 - Pints brewed in 2016.. 208
Pints brewed in 2015.. 624 - Pints brewed in 2014.. 832

adm

Re: Price per pint

Post by adm » Tue Nov 25, 2008 9:29 am

Good question......

I've got quite a big old ramshackle victorian house, so it's not the most energy efficient place to heat, but that should see me through from now until the Spring. I hope.

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Re: Price per pint

Post by BarnsleyBrewer » Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:57 pm

adm wrote:Good question......

I've got quite a big old ramshackle victorian house, so it's not the most energy efficient place to heat, but that should see me through from now until the Spring. I hope.
Hey, I can picture it now :-k Brewery in the grounds, home bar, snooker/games room. \:D/

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"Brewing Fine Ales in Barnsley Since 1984"
- - - - - - - 40 years (1984 - 2024)- - - - - - -
Pints Brewed in 2024......... 104
Pints brewed in 2018.. 416
Pints brewed in 2017.. 416 - Pints brewed in 2016.. 208
Pints brewed in 2015.. 624 - Pints brewed in 2014.. 832

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Re: Price per pint

Post by clogwog » Sat Nov 29, 2008 9:13 pm

I reset all my ingredient prices in BeerSmith to $0.00.

Then pretend my beer is free.

It's a hobby, and all I know it it gives me cheaper beer than commercial stuff.

I don't analyse other hobbies down to the last fraction of a cent. I don't calculate the cost of my golf balls to $0.0128 per stroke. I don't calculate the cost of the rubber on my runners down to $0.002 per kilometre jogged. I don't calculate the cost of my home grown veges as 58% of store bought ones. I don't see why I should do it for my brewing.

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Re: Price per pint

Post by BarnsleyBrewer » Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:03 pm

clogwog wrote:I reset all my ingredient prices in BeerSmith to $0.00.

Then pretend my beer is free.

It's a hobby, and all I know it it gives me cheaper beer than commercial stuff.

I don't analyse other hobbies down to the last fraction of a cent. I don't calculate the cost of my golf balls to $0.0128 per stroke. I don't calculate the cost of the rubber on my runners down to $0.002 per kilometre jogged. I don't calculate the cost of my home grown veges as 58% of store bought ones. I don't see why I should do it for my brewing.
Well said!! :wink:

John
"Brewing Fine Ales in Barnsley Since 1984"
- - - - - - - 40 years (1984 - 2024)- - - - - - -
Pints Brewed in 2024......... 104
Pints brewed in 2018.. 416
Pints brewed in 2017.. 416 - Pints brewed in 2016.. 208
Pints brewed in 2015.. 624 - Pints brewed in 2014.. 832

kevthebootboy

Re: Price per pint

Post by kevthebootboy » Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:54 pm

clogwog wrote:I reset all my ingredient prices in BeerSmith to $0.00.

Then pretend my beer is free.

It's a hobby, and all I know it it gives me cheaper beer than commercial stuff.

I don't analyse other hobbies down to the last fraction of a cent. I don't calculate the cost of my golf balls to $0.0128 per stroke. I don't calculate the cost of the rubber on my runners down to $0.002 per kilometre jogged. I don't calculate the cost of my home grown veges as 58% of store bought ones. I don't see why I should do it for my brewing.

wwhhhooooooOOOOOOOOoooooo :roll: :wink:

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