Interesting info on real ale in corny kegs

Get advice on making beer from raw ingredients (malt, hops, water and yeast)
Whorst

Interesting info on real ale in corny kegs

Post by Whorst » Mon Dec 01, 2008 5:11 pm

I don't agree with everything this guy mentions, but there is some useful information here. I'm for certain that the introduction of air into the vessel is essential.

http://biohazard.veriqikdsl.com/page15.html

User avatar
Jim
Site Admin
Posts: 10312
Joined: Sun Aug 22, 2004 1:00 pm
Location: Washington, UK

Re: Interesting info on real ale in corny kegs

Post by Jim » Mon Dec 01, 2008 5:34 pm

Excellent article, W. 8)

Like you I don't agree with everything, but unlike you, I'm not so sure about letting air in. I suppose it all depends on how long you want your beer to last.
NURSE!! He's out of bed again!

JBK on Facebook
JBK on Twitter

Graham

Re: Interesting info on real ale in corny kegs

Post by Graham » Mon Dec 01, 2008 6:46 pm

I let air into my casks during dispense with one of these.

Image

A bicycle valve, which acts as a demand valve.

In the background you can just make out my self-built, fully-fledged digital juke-box. I have no need for virtual juke-boxes. \:D/

User avatar
Jim
Site Admin
Posts: 10312
Joined: Sun Aug 22, 2004 1:00 pm
Location: Washington, UK

Re: Interesting info on real ale in corny kegs

Post by Jim » Mon Dec 01, 2008 6:52 pm

Ah, the famous bicycle tyre valve cask breather! :lol: 8)
NURSE!! He's out of bed again!

JBK on Facebook
JBK on Twitter

Whorst

Re: Interesting info on real ale in corny kegs

Post by Whorst » Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:22 pm

My beer is always consumed in an evening, so air is ok.

Graham

Re: Interesting info on real ale in corny kegs

Post by Graham » Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:33 pm

Chris-x1 wrote: What's on the Juke box btw Graham ?
Image

Image

Image

Damfoose

Re: Interesting info on real ale in corny kegs

Post by Damfoose » Mon Dec 01, 2008 10:05 pm

OK im intreged now :!: how is such a wonderous thing made :?:

The juke box that is..

Graham

Re: Interesting info on real ale in corny kegs

Post by Graham » Mon Dec 01, 2008 10:28 pm

Damfoose wrote:OK im intreged now :!: how is such a wonderous thing made :?:

The juke box that is..
There is only one jukebox manufacturer in Britain, I was going to be the second. I abandoned the idea in the end. What you see below is the prototype. Even now it is still superior to current digital jukeboxes on the market, even though it uses push-buttons and not a touch screen. I deliberately avoided a touch screen for various reasons.

A lot more more blood, sweat and tears went into that than into the valantine tube in the foreground.

Image

Damfoose

Re: Interesting info on real ale in corny kegs

Post by Damfoose » Mon Dec 01, 2008 10:31 pm

I must admit Graham that is a very impressive piece of engineering.

User avatar
Oggy' Bar
Hollow Legs
Posts: 367
Joined: Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:03 pm
Location: Near lancaster

Re: Interesting info on real ale in corny kegs

Post by Oggy' Bar » Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:18 pm

Graham wrote:
Chris-x1 wrote: What's on the Juke box btw Graham ?
Image

Image

Image
Hey GW...No Led Zeppelin or Carlos Santana.. :lol:

ChrisG

Re: Interesting info on real ale in corny kegs

Post by ChrisG » Tue Dec 02, 2008 2:25 pm

Whorst wrote:I don't agree with everything this guy mentions, but there is some useful information here. I'm for certain that the introduction of air into the vessel is essential.

http://biohazard.veriqikdsl.com/page15.html
So if you pressure barrel doesn't keep the gas in, and air gets in could that be the same effect, if your topping up the barrel with CO2?

Whorst

Re: Interesting info on real ale in corny kegs

Post by Whorst » Tue Dec 02, 2008 3:07 pm

In theory, yes. Problem is the leak may not allow the co2 to pressurize your your barrel, making it difficult to get the beer out.

User avatar
Dennis King
Telling everyone Your My Best Mate
Posts: 4228
Joined: Sat Aug 11, 2007 7:52 pm
Location: Pitsea Essex

Re: Interesting info on real ale in corny kegs

Post by Dennis King » Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:13 pm

good music choice Graham

babalu87

Re: Interesting info on real ale in corny kegs

Post by babalu87 » Wed Dec 03, 2008 2:23 pm

So the change (sounds like I'm talking about.................... never mind :mrgreen: ) happens when some oxygen IE ambient air is introduced into the cask/corney, correct?

Once you perceive a change the blanket of CO2 can then be established and the beer will stabilize allowing for longer shelf life at "cellar" temperatures?

User avatar
flytact
Drunk as a Skunk
Posts: 759
Joined: Wed Oct 04, 2006 6:31 pm
Location: Annapolis, MD - USA

Re: Interesting info on real ale in corny kegs

Post by flytact » Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:08 pm

That's what it sounds like. What it appears he is going for is the 2nd or 3rd day of a cask all the time. I think it is personal preference as to how you like your real ale. For me it's been several years since having it in the UK so I really don't have a good comparison, just as long as it tastes good I'm happy.

Disclaimer, there are lots of pubs in the US serving real ale, I just haven't found one that has done it right.
Johnny Clueless was there
With his simulated wood grain

Post Reply