Coopers Stout Advice

[fiat84]

Hi:

Purchased a few white cans of Cooper Stout and was wondering if you can do a two can brew with organic cane sugar? Reason being in my area the price of 500g packs of Dark Malt is more than the price for a can of Coopers Stout. Plan to use organic cane sugar instead of white sugar and perhaps dilute only to 18L or 20L. Any suggestions on this mix to get the best out of my available ingredients and will be bottling the beer.

Plan to someday make the magical recipe posted in this tread of 1KG dark malt with one white can of Coopers Stout for comparison, have made wine but never a beer kit.

Thanks

[farmhousekeg]

Ive done it!!!! The brew is now in the FV - one can Coopers Stout + 1kg Dark Spraymalt. OG 1042. I am awaiting "lift off" and SWMBO has been warned that the kitchen could become a war zone! Watch this space.

[arturobandini]

Purchased a few white cans of Cooper Stout and was wondering if you can do a two can brew with organic cane sugar? Reason being in my area the price of 500g packs of Dark Malt is more than the price for a can of Coopers Stout.

Are you after making up a normal brew of Stout using a second can as your fermentable sugars? If so I'm sure this would not work and give a Stout that is unbalanced and overly hopped. The extract in the Stout is pre-hopped to make up a certain amount of Stout with the right amount of hops etc. If you add two kits together you're making 80 pints worth of hops in a 40 pint kit so be prepared for hop overload.

I can't imagine a world where you can get a can of Coopers for less than a 1kg of DME? Your DME must cost an absolute bomb, what figures are we talking and where are you buying from? Try looking for LME (Liquid Malt Extract) which is like an unhopped kit so you'd be getting that mouthfeel and body without the bitterness. The one drawback of this is that you may get what is referred to as "extract twang" where the kit tastes a little odd due to too much canned malt in it. Dried malt has no such drawback and that's why it's the preferred choice of many brewers.

[fiat84]

Over here in Canada paid $8.50CDN on sale, reg. $12.99 for each can of Coopers Irish Stout and Coopers India Pale Ale (IPA) Thomas Cooper Brewmaster Selection. The dark malt is $9.50 per 500G bag, and $8 for the 4KG bag of organic cane sugar. Never brewed beer before but wanted to do it correctly unless there was some easy tweak with two kits or using two different kits ideally to improve the body. Not sure I should deviate from the stock instructions now really want a good brew with minimal cost.

Am located close to where the oil sands are near the Rocky Mountains. Walked into a pub in London on my last day there and asked for a genuine British beer...the bartender goes to me "this is an Irish Pub" so had the regular and cold Guinness versions during a nice chat with the neighborhood cab driver regular. Had some very nice slightly sparkling cider on the coast in Wales might make that one day soon.

[farmhousekeg]

Over here in Canada paid $8.50CDN on sale, reg. $12.99 for each can of Coopers Irish Stout and Coopers India Pale Ale (IPA) Thomas Cooper Brewmaster Selection. The dark malt is $9.50 per 500G bag, and $8 for the 4KG bag of organic cane sugar. Never brewed beer before but wanted to do it correctly unless there was some easy tweak with two kits or using two different kits ideally to improve the body. Not sure I should deviate from the stock instructions now really want a good brew with minimal cost.

Am located close to where the oil sands are near the Rocky Mountains. Walked into a pub in London on my last day there and asked for a genuine British beer...the bartender goes to me "this is an Irish Pub" so had the regular and cold Guinness versions during a nice chat with the neighborhood cab driver regular. Had some very nice slightly sparkling cider on the coast in Wales might make that one day soon.

Wow!! This is wrong! I just made up a Coopers Stout kit this weekend using Dark Spraymalt instead of sugar (1kg). Spraymalt here is £2.95 for 500g and the Coopers kit was £9.95 so that's a completely different price situation! However, for the extra $3 involved in using 1kg of dark malt instead of sugar in your case, I would still go for it. Presumably this still makes it a lot cheaper than buying beer at the local supermarket? I have never tasted this Coopers Stout made with spraymalt or sugar but from what I read on here, it will be worth it. I think we need to start a black market sending Spraymalt to Canada and you can send us the Coopers (if it weren't for the postage!).

20 hours after pitching the dried yeast, the airlock on my Coopers Stout is now bubbling away madly in the kitchen with about 3cm of Krausen on top of the brew, threatening to blow the lid of the FV, so much so that the dog won't come into the room!!!!

[fiat84]

Its about $7 for a pint of Guinness here in a pub and less than half that price in the store. Got me thinking I might do one kit with organic cane sugar and one kit with dark malt at the same time for a comparison. Not sure we can wait three months for the taste test though.

1) 1KG dark malt = $19 + one Coopers kit $8.50 = $27.50

2) 1KG cane sugar = $2 + one Coopers kit $8.50 = $10.50

3) 1KG cane sugar = $2 + two Coopers kits $8.50x2 = $19.00

4) 500G cane sugar = $1 + 500G dark malt = $9.50 + one Coopers kit $8.50 = $19

[farmhousekeg]

Its about $7 for a pint of Guinness here in a pub and less than half that price in the store. Got me thinking I might do one kit with organic cane sugar and one kit with dark malt at the same time for a comparison. Not sure we can wait three months for the taste test though.

1) 1KG dark malt = $19 + one Coopers kit $8.50 = $27.50

2) 1KG cane sugar = $2 + one Coopers kit $8.50 = $10.50

3) 1KG cane sugar = $2 + two Coopers kits $8.50x2 = $19.00

4) 500G cane sugar = $1 + 500G dark malt = $9.50 + one Coopers kit $8.50 = $19

$3.50 a pint to drink shop bought beer at home, so that's 40 pints x 3.50 = $140

Coopers Stout looks cheap to me however you do it and you'll have the satisfaction of knowing you did it all yourself. PLUS, if the results are as advertised by Ditch, it will taste better than Guiness! Go for it

[farmhousekeg]

20 hours after pitching the dried yeast, the airlock on my Coopers Stout is now bubbling away madly in the kitchen with about 3cm of Krausen on top of the brew, threatening to blow the lid of the FV, so much so that the dog won't come into the room!!!!

Bit late getting this photo uploaded sorry...........this is via my laptop and mobile phone from my hotel in Germany, hows that for dedication!!!!!

The photo is of my Coopers Stout in the FV, 30 hours after pitching...........the dog was still scared witless of the FV at this point in time Looking forward to seeing how its doin 2moz when I get home, 4 days after pitching, hopefully ready to keg by Sunday!

[farmhousekeg]

Woops, not quite sussed out this photo uploading lark. Anyone know how to do it? I get a message telling me that "the extension is not allowed". I was trying to attach a .jpg file. Any ideas

[farmhousekeg]

20 hours after pitching the dried yeast, the airlock on my Coopers Stout is now bubbling away madly in the kitchen with about 3cm of Krausen on top of the brew, threatening to blow the lid of the FV, so much so that the dog won't come into the room!!!!

Bit late getting this photo uploaded sorry...........this is via my laptop and mobile phone from my hotel in Germany, hows that for dedication!!!!!

The photo is of my Coopers Stout in the FV, 30 hours after pitching...........the dog was still scared witless of the FV at this point in time Looking forward to seeing how its doin 2moz when I get home, 4 days after pitching, hopefully ready to keg by Sunday!

Here we go, bit blurry but will try harder next time!