first kit problem

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DarloDave

first kit problem

Post by DarloDave » Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:07 pm

I've just bottled my first kit tonight, and i had a taste and it tasted absolutely fowl, totally undrinkable. will this get better over time? It was "Youngs Harvest Bitter", should it not have tasted even remotley nice?

Immy's Dad

Re: first kit problem

Post by Immy's Dad » Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:14 pm

Define 'foul', or did you mean fowl, like a chicken? (Only joking :wink: )

In answer to your question, there are a number of 'off' flavours than can be attributable to a variety of issues, ranging from bacterial infections to chemical ones, if you describe more accurately the taste maybe some of our more experienced chaps can help you out.

KevP

Re: first kit problem

Post by KevP » Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:33 pm

I've tasted plenty of brews straight out of the FV, and I can honestly say not one could be described as Foul. :(

Methinks you've got an infection and jaggered your brew mate :|
But, in case your idea of foul is different to mine, then you could give it a couple of weeks or more and retry it.

DarloDave

Re: first kit problem

Post by DarloDave » Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:13 am

It kinda tastes watery, but i cant really explain :s. it doesnt taste vinegary or anything like that.

Benson_JV

Re: first kit problem

Post by Benson_JV » Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:17 am

Did you make the kit per instructions?
Did you change anything?
Did you totally steralise everything? etc etc

Hopefully it'll be something that can be sorted with a little time :)

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Re: first kit problem

Post by Ditch » Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:29 am

" Watery " ? :-k Forgive me for saying, but; I don't think that sounds too far off the mark for such a kit, at this stage at least. If ye used plain sugar, that'd be it in one. Did ye use DSM or plain table sugar ~ as, most likely, per instructions?

Benson_JV

Re: first kit problem

Post by Benson_JV » Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:36 am

Damn ye Ditch, stealing my idea's! :wink:
I thought it may have been that, or he'd made it over the required amount of water. Thus i asked him if he'd made it to instructions. :)

DarloDave

Re: first kit problem

Post by DarloDave » Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:23 pm

if anything I used a bit under the amount of water which was what was confusing me even more. I just used normal white caster sugar, so there is still a slight bit of hope. and i shouldnt chuck it? [-o<

Benson_JV

Re: first kit problem

Post by Benson_JV » Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:31 pm

Hmm, what i would do is keep it, but get another brew going, give it a couple weeks, see what happens, afterall, it hasnt had time to bottle condition yet :)

DarloDave

Re: first kit problem

Post by DarloDave » Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:11 pm

next brew i do is gonna be an AG with equipent bought with xmas money :D . So even if this one turns out to be a disaster im not put off in the slightest, and ill just steralise everything twice next time to be safe haha. :wink:

Madbrewer

Re: first kit problem

Post by Madbrewer » Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:46 pm

Please bear in mind that I haven't done kits in 12 years. However the best way I can describe the kits I did (and I never used Malt extract, just brewing sugar if 'sugar' was called for ( on the 3kilo ones it wasn't)) they tasted like beer that was very slightly oxidised (which could have been MY fault). They had less body/were more watery than pub bought beer. They tasted beer like but with virtually no hop aroma and a faint 'gravy' like aftertaste. It's the bets way I can describe kits.

Cardboard taste = probably oxidised. TCP /medicinal = Chlorine in the water. Over acidic (vinegar?) = infection.

I did always see improvement if I left it 4 weeks before drinking it though!

Benson_JV

Re: first kit problem

Post by Benson_JV » Tue Dec 09, 2008 3:08 pm

Good luck over on the dark side Dave!

DarloDave

Re: first kit problem

Post by DarloDave » Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:18 pm

ah well these are in my uni house atm, however im goin home in a week till after xmas, so ill just leave them here and forget about them over xmas, if when i come back they are gross ill just chuck em and use the bottles for my AG, if they are nice then thats all good. :D

DarloDave

Re: first kit problem

Post by DarloDave » Mon Jan 05, 2009 12:57 am

I've just tried some and its actually not that bad!, a bit too fizzy, and the smell is disgusting, but its drinkable! wahey =D>

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