Recipe Suggestion?

[mctoon]

Hi, I have trawled the site for a recipe using Northdown and WGV hops, thats all ive got, Any ideas, I only have MO pale and Crystal too

Cheers Mal

[Madbrewer]

Hi I just had a quick nose around for substitions for you on the following three links - the third being the most relavent:-

http://www.brew365.com/hop_substitution_chart.php

http://onehourbrewing.com/files/2008/12/chart.html

and
http://www.paddockwood.com/guide_hop_varieties.html

... which has this to say ....

WGV (Whitbread Goldings Variety)
Developed in the 1960s to help the Goldings increase alpha acid levels, this hop dual purpose hop has great flavour and aromatics. Provides a distinctive sweet fruit flavour in beers, similar to, but generally more pronounced and robust than, Goldings. It gives a mild, clean bitterness in traditional ales, and is sometimes used with good effect as a distinctive dry hop. Used perhaps still in Archer's Bitters, Bellhaven's ale, and Young's.

Alpha Acid: 5.0 to 6.0
Storage: 60 to 65%
Aroma: mild and spicy to woody
Uses: British style ales
Substitutions: Fuggle, Styrian Goldings, Kent Goldings

&

Northdown (UK)
Derived from Northern Brewer, it shares many of the same characteristics, and has replaced Northern Brewer in much of the UK for all uses, including dry Irish Stouts. A clean and mild bitterness with delicate hop aroma.

Alpha Acid: 8.0 to 9
Storage: 70 to 80%
Aroma: strong, woody, minty
Uses: bittering with strong aromas in dark ales, aroma, dry hopping
Substitutions: Perle, Galena , Northern Brewer

... So you could go through the Norms Almanac Recipe thread and take a look at what ever you fancy playing at substituting with? TTL comes to mind though there must be millions of varients posted on this site just substitute the IBU's of Styrians for the same levels with WGV But it's basically just Pale Malt, something like an OG of 1.040 (IIRC) and around 30IBU's whicg in this case would ve supplied by the WGV's ....

[mctoon]

Cheers MadBrewer, thanks for the great info, found some recipes to try, still could find TTL in the list, or work it out for that matter,,, is it a timothy taylor??????,

Cheers Mal

[coatesg]

You could try doing a single hop pale ale using just the one hop variety for bittering, flavour and aroma? eg. As above aim for 1040 or so, 100% pale, and as much bitterness as you fancy (wouldn't go over 40IBUs though). Then you'll get to see exactly what flavours each hop gives.

Alternatively, you can just make up your own as you go - once you know what strength and how bitter you want it, you can play with the percentage of crystal (I'd plump for anything up to about 10% - abov this it will be quite cloying), and the different combinations of the hops available to you. Most likely they'd all turn out very well

[Madbrewer]

Cheers MadBrewer, thanks for the great info, found some recipes to try, still could find TTL in the list, or work it out for that matter,,, is it a timothy taylor??????,

Cheers Mal

yes timmy taylor landlord.

My last version of it is:-

OG 1.042
23 litres / 32 IBU
4500g Pale Malt
i8 IBU Styrian Goldings (i.e. 49g with alpha acid % of 3.1) 90 mins boil
14 IBU Fuggle (24g) 90 mins boil
15g Goldings for a 80c 'steep'
Muntons Gold Yeast

nothing special but nothing wrong with it either - try substituting from that!

happy Brewing

Phil