Samuel Smiths Oatmeal Stout

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Re: Samuel Smiths Oatmeal Stout

Post by BarnsleyBrewer » Sun Jan 04, 2009 10:38 pm

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Re: Samuel Smiths Oatmeal Stout

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Re: Samuel Smiths Oatmeal Stout

Post by Robdog » Mon Jan 12, 2009 4:53 pm

Im thinking about trying this recipe but do i have to mash at 40c for 30mins first or can i just put everything in the mash tun and do the usual 90min mash?

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Re: Samuel Smiths Oatmeal Stout

Post by Parva » Mon Jan 12, 2009 5:31 pm

Robdog wrote:Im thinking about trying this recipe but do i have to mash at 40c for 30mins first or can i just put everything in the mash tun and do the usual 90min mash?
Dunno where you've got the idea of a 40c mash period from? Ah, page 1, seen it now. Dunno what this would achieve? Just bung all the grain in and mash at about 66c for 90 minutes before sparging is what I'd do personally but I guess there must be some reason for the 30 mins at 40c.

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Re: Samuel Smiths Oatmeal Stout

Post by Robdog » Mon Jan 12, 2009 6:29 pm

Parva wrote:
Robdog wrote:Im thinking about trying this recipe but do i have to mash at 40c for 30mins first or can i just put everything in the mash tun and do the usual 90min mash?
Dunno where you've got the idea of a 40c mash period from? Ah, page 1, seen it now. Dunno what this would achieve? Just bung all the grain in and mash at about 66c for 90 minutes before sparging is what I'd do personally but I guess there must be some reason for the 30 mins at 40c.


I also thought there must be a good reason for the 30min mash but cant work out why. I may just have a go and bung it all in. Ill roast the oats first though.

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Re: Samuel Smiths Oatmeal Stout

Post by Gurgeh » Mon Jan 12, 2009 7:37 pm

it's called a cereal mash. you can skip it if you're using 'instant' porridge, otherwise it's recommended.

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Re: Samuel Smiths Oatmeal Stout

Post by Robdog » Mon Jan 12, 2009 8:13 pm

Ill be using porrisge oats from the supermarket, rolled oats i think there called but just the standard ones. Not sure if there classed as instant?

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Re: Samuel Smiths Oatmeal Stout

Post by Parva » Mon Jan 12, 2009 8:59 pm

No, instant porridge would be classed as Ready Brek and the like I would think so you'll probably need to do that 30 minute infusion.

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Re: Samuel Smiths Oatmeal Stout

Post by Gurgeh » Mon Jan 12, 2009 9:39 pm

correct

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Re: Samuel Smiths Oatmeal Stout

Post by Robdog » Mon Jan 12, 2009 9:45 pm

Does the 30 min mash contain the whole graing bill? Then after 30 mins just add hot water to get the temp up to 65ish?

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Re: Samuel Smiths Oatmeal Stout

Post by adm » Mon Jan 12, 2009 9:48 pm

I think you could just mash the cereal separately in a small pot, then add that to the rest of the grain bill in the main mash.

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Re: Samuel Smiths Oatmeal Stout

Post by Aleman » Mon Jan 12, 2009 9:55 pm

Parva wrote:
Robdog wrote:Im thinking about trying this recipe but do i have to mash at 40c for 30mins first or can i just put everything in the mash tun and do the usual 90min mash?
Dunno where you've got the idea of a 40c mash period from? Ah, page 1, seen it now. Dunno what this would achieve? Just bung all the grain in and mash at about 66c for 90 minutes before sparging is what I'd do personally but I guess there must be some reason for the 30 mins at 40c.
Oats are high in Beta Glucans (Its what makes porridge sticky :-& ) mashing the oats at 35C (not 40!) for the first 20-30 minutes separately from the main mash makes them all runny, and much less likely to cause a stuck mash. . . . you don't have to mash sequentially, but can do it in parallel.
1) add the oats, and pale malt (1/4 of the oat weight) to the liquor at 35C . . . put in a warm oven
2) dough in the rest of the grist, and get the main mash under way at 66C (or whatever)
3) after 20 minutes, heat the oat mash up to 66C and hold it there for 10 minutes (it should have got quite runny)
4) add oat mash to main mash.

FWIW I would always do this regardless of the type of oats being used . . . but then I think that oats are for horses so what do I know :D

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Re: Samuel Smiths Oatmeal Stout

Post by Robdog » Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:12 pm

Thanks Aleman. So if im using 200g of oats i need to add 50g of pale malt also?

When the oat mash is in the over have i got to try and keep it at 35? Not sure how reliable my oven is you see but i could get one of those oven thrmometers.

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