loads of Northdown

[vipergreen]

Having brought 5kg of Northdown off Mctoon I'm now thinking what can I do with them.

My initial idea is to try to brew a 23l batch of around 4% from Pale malt and 5% Crystal and go for some big hop flavour.

I thought of doing my usual (although I,ve only brewed 5 times so still learning) 90 minute boil with no Hops to start with but adding 200g with 15 minute to go and a further 100g whilst the wort is being cooled and is under 80c.

So what do you think it will be like

[MartialAnt]

What the hell. Go for it.

[Parva]

Having brought 5kg of Northdown off Mctoon I'm now thinking what can I do with them.

My initial idea is to try to brew a 23l batch of around 4% from Pale malt and 5% Crystal and go for some big hop flavour.

I thought of doing my usual (although I,ve only brewed 5 times so still learning) 90 minute boil with no Hops to start with but adding 200g with 15 minute to go and a further 100g whilst the wort is being cooled and is under 80c.

So what do you think it will be like

300g of Northdown? Jesus, that will be one very, very hoppy beer! Beersmith makes that about 162IBU's if I've entered it correctly! If I were you I would knock a zero off each figure! Well, more like 60g at start and 30g at finish to get something that's palletable.

[delboy]

I think the wort reaches a saturation point when it comes to IBUs from memory i don't think the calculators in most brewing software take this into account and simply apply a linear relationship, so its v. unlikely that you would actually obtain such enamel stripping amounts as 170 IBUs.

Personally though i think 300g is overkill and it'll taste much the same as a batch made with 200g or less for that matter.
Since you have so many though what about maybe offering a swap (via JBK) with someone who may also have a glut of a different particular hop etc. Or maybe look into getting a vacumn sealer so that you can store them in the freezer without taking up an enormous amount of room.

[Parva]

I dare say you are right about the wort becoming saturated at a certain point Del, the point I'm trying to get across is that it would be undrinkable in my opinion.

[delboy]

I dare say you are right about the wort becoming saturated at a certain point Del, the point I'm trying to get across is that it would be undrinkable in my opinion.

Well it would certainly be an aquired taste

[delboy]

Having brought 5kg of Northdown off Mctoon I'm now thinking what can I do with them.

My initial idea is to try to brew a 23l batch of around 4% from Pale malt and 5% Crystal and go for some big hop flavour.

I thought of doing my usual (although I,ve only brewed 5 times so still learning) 90 minute boil with no Hops to start with but adding 200g with 15 minute to go and a further 100g whilst the wort is being cooled and is under 80c.

So what do you think it will be like

As parva said this is going to give you an enormously bitter beer thats going to be out of balance.
I've used late hopping technique several times with a good deal of sucsess.

Assuming that you like your beer bitter you could go with a 1:1 ratio of ibus to gravity (personally i like it lower) if your northdown are around 8 % you would get this by putting about 75g of them in with 20 mins to go. This will give you masses of hop flavour and plenty of bitterness (IBUs in the low 40s). As for the steeping amount throw in as much as you want but do take into account that the hops are like sponges and that they will soak up loads of the wort leaving less to go into the fermenter.
Good luck with it

Edit this wee figure my be of some use, it doesn't take into account attenuation levels or personal taste but its still a good place to start.

[deadlydes]

have a read of this
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source ... 0iiAe71Nug

[boingy]

It seems a bit daft to reduce boil time just to use up loads of hops. Suggest you either freeze the hops in batches or portion some out and sell them on ebay or to other JBK members. Sell 100g for about £3 inc delivery and people will bite your hands off/

[delboy]

It seems a bit daft to reduce boil time just to use up loads of hops. Suggest you either freeze the hops in batches or portion some out and sell them on ebay or to other JBK members. Sell 100g for about £3 inc delivery and people will bite your hands off/

I think you might have got the wrong end of the stick boingy, the idea with large late hopping is not to reduce the boil time to 20 mins but rather to get massive amounts of hop flavour. You still carry out your 60-90 min boil to precipate proteins and reduce the volume etc. But with 20 mins remaining in the boil you then add a large amounts of hops. This is obviously a very inefficent way of utilising the available AAs compared to the typical 90 min addition but the upside is that you get masses of hop flavour which unlike early additions at 90 mins etc don't get boiled away.

I've found using this technique that i've also retained quite a bit of the hop aroma also, but if you feel like pushing the boat out you can add another good dose of hops at 80 C (steeping hops) to lock in the aroma (personally i now prefer to dry hop to acheive this but some find dry hopping objectionable because of perceived 'grassiness').

I actually have a lot of time for this late hopping approach and would recommend it to anyone that loves hoppy beers. Previously i had been advocating a 15 min addition but one person who tried it ended up with an under-hopped beer. Because of this if i was recommending this to someone for the first time i would suggest that a smallish proportion of the IBUs come from FWH and the rest from a 20 min addition rather than the 15 min which is a bit more forgiving when it comes to acheiving the correct IBUs.

[haz66]

You should be able to brew a very hoppy brew though without throwing 300g worth at it.
i did one recently over a 60 min boil time with
40g Styrian at 60mins
10g Styrian at 20mins
10g Styrian at 10mins
10g Styrian at 0mins

70g and a very hoppy tasting outcome.

I would do as others have suggested and try and offload some either on here or back on ebay
instead of wasting them, but then at the end of the day they are your hops and you paid for them
so its upto you how you decide to brew with them.

[vipergreen]

have a read of this
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source ... 0iiAe71Nug

Thanks for all the replies.

I think this is the kind of thing i was getting at has anyone tried this approach ?