Anyone know the recipe for Fosters?

[MartialAnt]

Please chaps, dont laugh me out of the forum but i was asked if i could make 40 pints of Fosters for someone.
So i need 40 pints of urine, but what hops do i add to it?

[oblivious]

, but what hops do i add to it?

they probably use a mix as they are only after bitterness, and I would not be surprised id the was a good percentage of sugar or mash adjunct such as rice or maize

[grumpysod]

Dave Line has a recipe in "Brewing Beers like those you buy"

For 25 litres you need

3.25Kg Lager Malt
0.5kg Flaked Rice
0.4g Sugar (He said Glucose chips)
45g Hallertau (90 mins)
Lager Yeast

Dave expected an OG of 1046 and a FG of 1012

[Graham]

The information that I have, old and out of date, is that they use Pride of Ringwood, which is Pride of Kent grown in Australia. Pride of Kent, a Salmon (a bloke's name) hybrid, did not last long in this country because of its obnoxious flavour, but the Aussies loved it. At one time it was the highest alpha-acid hop grown in the world. There are people on this forum that buy English hops from an Australian supplier cheaper than they can buy them locally, even though they have travelled half way round the world twice. That same outfit would certainly be capable of supplying Ringwood hops.

Other than that, I think you will be stuck with Target - which is probably the closest - unless someone has more modern info.

[adm]

That same outfit certainly can supply them!

The "much maligned" Pride of Ringwood hop

If you're going to buy some, you might as well take the opportunity to get a few packs of NZ and AUS hops at the same time. They have a fantastic selection and postage works out very reasonable indeed if you buy a decent amount. They also ship extremely quickly - about a week from Australia to your door.

"At time of release in 1965, it was the highest alpha acid hop in the world and went on to become more than 90% of the Australian crop- closely associated with such famous beers as Foster's Lager."

They also sell a liquid hop extract of PoR - which although it goes against everything I hold dear, is probably exactly what you want to clone Fosters.

How do people like Fosters brew lager anyway? I can't imagine they do a cold lagering for multiple weeks - I'd have thought they get it out the door inside a week.

[MartialAnt]

Thanks chaps. Just worked it out at 36p a pint. Where as 2 boxes of 275ml bottles works out at 86p a pint. Ooooooooooohhhhhh the savings i'll be making.

Think i'll still add some urine, as its the ex's parents.
I'll charge him £20 to make it & stick it in 2L pets. I really dont mind making it coz that means SWO's will bugger off out for the day while i make it. That in its self is priceless.


Flaked rice, does that give a flavour like flaked maize gives a corn taste?
Leyland doesnt sell it so could i stick some white rice in my blender & smash it up? Flaked maize just looks like smashed up popping corn.

Also SWO's mate feeds her horse flaked maize, or maize anyway, I wonder if i can use that? I'd be able to blag loads off her if it would work. I shall check that out.

[ritchie]

Hop & Grape sell flaked rice (hulled, milled, parboiled and flattened rice) or if you have an Asian grocery nearby you could look for Pawa which is the same thing

[MartialAnt]

Can i use fried rice from the chinese take away?

[ritchie]

i reckon that'd def give you flavour in the finished product. the flaked rice is for body i believe unless someone can tell me otherwise.

[Graham]

Rice is virtually tasteless. It is used in Aussie stuff to dilute the high nitrogen in their six-row barley, which would otherwise cause a haze. If you want to use rice grain, you can use any rice grain you like, but you have to cook it first to gelatinise the starch, then add the lot, water and all, to the mash. But you will not be using inferior six-row barley...

The Aussies would use cooked rice grain, not flakes or grits.

[MartialAnt]

So woould it be ok not to use rice?
If i used maize would that change it totally?
Or use neithrer?

[Trough Lolly]

Rice is virtually tasteless. It is used in Aussie stuff to dilute the high nitrogen in their six-row barley, which would otherwise cause a haze. If you want to use rice grain, you can use any rice grain you like, but you have to cook it first to gelatinise the starch, then add the lot, water and all, to the mash. But you will not be using inferior six-row barley...

The Aussies would use cooked rice grain, not flakes or grits.

Ok, lets first clear up all this 6 row crap...

All of my base malt is purchased in 25kg sacks through our club co-op bulk buying arrangement with Cryers Malts who are an excellent grains supplier here in Australia. We have PDF profile copies of all grains sold and I can tell you that the base malt we use is 2 row. Fact. Yes, some 6 row varieties are grown but we can pick and choose our malt - a large proportion of it is bought up by food industry suppliers such as the confectioners and choccy makers. I buy my Bairds malts from Cryers as well and the Marris Otter is not too bad if you like a darker ale malt compared to our variants. We also get in plenty of Bairds, Hoepfner and Weyermann but I digress...

My family grows barley, wheat, rapeseed and oats on a farm roughly the size of Surrey and I can confirm that Australian grown 2 row barley including, Arapiles, Franklin, Gairdner, Galaxy (which practically converts dust to sugar!!), Schooner, Sloop and Stirling is commonly grown and sold both domestically and overseas. Carlsberg is a big buyer of our barley, as are Carlton and United Breweries, who take perfectly good barley and make Fosters Lager and Victoria Bitter with it.

I could never work out how they got the cat to stand so still over the bottle opening...

"Clone Brews" has a reasonably close copy of Fosters. Like Crown Lager (first runnings from the lauter tun) and VB (second runnings from the same tun), it's a bastardised Danish Lager. They brew on a pretty massive scale - they have multiple two story fermenters in each of their brewery sites...
Your grist should comprise 2 Row Pilsner malt (Australian Joe White Pils malt can be purchased from Craftbrewer), 250g of light crystal and at least 500g of cane sugar (not dextrose). Aim for an OG of around 1.048 - 1.050.
Pride of Ringwood is the prominant hop here - you can use Hallertau for bittering (22 IBU) and toss in PoR with 20 to go in the 1hr boil.
Use a clean lager yeast - Wyeast 2000 is good but may be a bit over the top for an in-laws beer!

Ross at Craftbrewer is not only a good bloke and excellent brewer, but he's also a highly reliable supplier of all ingredients - his hops are excellent quality. Tell him Trough Lolly sent you!

Cheers,
TL