Are kits really different?

[KevP]

Hi all

I have just had word back from the only few kit maufacturers that I though might still be producing their own kits and they are not, it seems Muntons are one of, if not THE only producer capable of bulk manufacture and canning, of course we still have the Aussies and New Zealand brews to name a couple.

So I am curious if we are really getting all these different kits as they are packaged up? How do I know A York Brewery Stonewall Bitter is not identical to a Milestone Bitter or a Brupak Birkby Bitter? I cant imagine Muntons being able to produce, on a weekly basis, the many dozens of different kits out there, all individual, with different grain, hop, and flavour difference!

Are we being duped?

[KevP]

Exactly, so how on earth are we meant to believe that Muntons really do produce all these wonderfully different kits?

[PEZ]

mmmm interesting...

[Ditch]

Exactly, so how on earth are we meant to believe that Muntons really do produce all these wonderfully different kits?

Would Muntons Ever spin you a crock ....?!

[Lillywhite]

My two York Brewery kits say on the box that they are made in England by Cellar Supplies based in Birmingham.

[Bryggmester]

There was a recent post in which someone from York Brewery was quoted as saying that the York Brewery kit malt extract comes from Muntons.

[KevP]

There was a recent post in which someone from York Brewery was quoted as saying that the York Brewery kit malt extract comes from Muntons.

yes that quote was posted by me, straight from an email, I'll post it here again;
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Hi,
Unfortunately our kits are produced by muntons. They comprise of a tin of
LME and a bag of spraymalt. We don't really have anything to do with the
kits, the distributor just uses our name and we are meant to receive a
royalty payment although thats not happened in a while!
Cheers

Andy York Brewery

[PEZ]

There was a recent post in which someone from York Brewery was quoted as saying that the York Brewery kit malt extract comes from Muntons.

yes that quote was posted by me, straight from an email, I'll post it here again;
---------------
Hi,
Unfortunately our kits are produced by muntons. They comprise of a tin of
LME and a bag of spraymalt. We don't really have anything to do with the
kits, the distributor just uses our name and we are meant to receive a
royalty payment although thats not happened in a while!
Cheers

Andy York Brewery

haha damn, why unfortunately?

[KevP]

There was a recent post in which someone from York Brewery was quoted as saying that the York Brewery kit malt extract comes from Muntons.

yes that quote was posted by me, straight from an email, I'll post it here again;
---------------
Hi,
Unfortunately our kits are produced by muntons. They comprise of a tin of
LME and a bag of spraymalt. We don't really have anything to do with the
kits, the distributor just uses our name and we are meant to receive a
royalty payment although thats not happened in a while!
Cheers

Andy York Brewery

haha damn, why unfortunately?

Well, you make up your own mind from that statement Pez, I wanted others to pick up on that, but only you so far mate If a brewery aren't keen then...

[Ditch]

Oh, we all picked up on it alright, Kev'. It's just that we're so damn used to hearing such opinions of Muntons, we take it as a given these days.
Bit like saying " Shit stinks, Dog bites man and Muntons are bad news ".

(Yeah ..... So ....? Now tell us something new.)

[brysie]

so...

when youngs say on their definitive lager kit `youngs are the worlds largest producer of wine kits and ancillaries` are
we to read that they dont mean that they make their own malt extracts?

[Lillywhite]

so...

when youngs say on their definitive lager kit `youngs are the worlds largest producer of wine kits and ancillaries` are
we to read that they dont mean that they make their own malt extracts?

I got the impression that Youngs are just a trade supplier and not a manufacturer. Let's face it they wouldn't be position to make moulded plastic items and malt extract kits etc.

[brysie]

see thats where it all falls down for me...

ive only been brewing for a short time, but hoping to have a long and fruitful association with home made beer ive tried as many different
manufacturers kits as i could find.
ive experimented with different sugars/beerkit enhancer/dsm/lsm and now it would seem that my research has been a bit pointless.

next youll be saying that coopers malt comes from the midlands.
im a bit gutted really.

[Ditch]

Brysie; Take heart, man! Coopers kits are 100% Nothing to do with Muntons. Full Stop. Period. End Of!

Coopers also offer a whole range of their own, home produced kits for ye to pick and choose from. Then ye can mess with them, if ye choose to. Why not look into getting their ancillary products to do that with too? Here; Here's a link to them for ye to sniff around and see what They have to offer ye: Click this

So there's a whole load of kits alone for ye to try out. Then ye can Experiment with those basics. Then ye can move into " Extract " brewing, utilising Coopers Extracts, look

Screw ye loaf and the world's ye oyster. Personally? I find the Pearls come from Australia!

[brysie]

i know youre right ditch..

bloody shame tho` that it seems that the only decent kits you can buy in the uk, to brew what is essentially british beers come from t`other side of the world.
do coopers brew their extracts over here or ship them in?

and, ive been onto a couple of local breweries about them selling their extract to the homebrewers market [bays,badger] and sadly they said no.