best use for my spray malt

[beer]

hello all just a possabilly daft question thats been going round in my head i bought a norfolk nog kit last weekend with some spray malt extra dark decided not to add the spray malt. so im thinking whats the best use for it if i add it to a one tin kit will it dramaticaly improve it or should i use it to prime with.im thinking at £3.75 for 500g or 75p for cane sugar i would go for the cheaper option im probley going to bottle in 1 litre pet .im new to this brewing lark and this is my first beer kit so have nothing to compare against any ideas will be gratefully receved thanks

[floydmeddler]

Add it to a kit to give it extra flavour and body. Use sugar to prime.

[beer]

thanks thats what i was thinking how big is the diffrence betwen a one tin kit with spray malt ect and a 3kg kit in terms of taste ect is it like compering cocacola to rola cola or just down to personal taste.

[stevezx7r]

The difference is noticable. Use the SM to make a decent beer with i.e your Nog and use a kg of T+L for something like a Youngs Lager.

[floydmeddler]

Next brew you do, take it all up a notch. Here's a little recipe I made just now using Beertools.

Buy two tins of liquid malt extract. Tip them into the fermenter on top of 2L of boiling water and give them a good stir until dissolved. Add your 500g of spray malt to a pot along with 3L of water and boil up. You could boil it for an hour and add hops during that time as follows:

So... as soon as it starts boiling add
50g of Sazz for 60 mins - This will add bitterness
25g Sazz 20 mins (so 40 mins later) - This will add flavour
25g Sazz 1 min (19 mins later) - This will add aroma

Sit the pot in a sink of cold water then when it hits room temperature, pour it through a colander into the fermenter to stop the spent hops from going in. Make sure you squeeze the remaining wort from the hops then discard.

Top up with cold water to 23L and pitch the yeast

Alcohol: 4.5%
Bitterness: 22.6

Give it a go!

[floydmeddler]

Also, If you want to give some delicious extra flavour, add 500g of Honey. This should also bring your alcohol content up to a cool 5.1%

I used this method around 3 or 4 times and had fantastic beer.

[beer]

that sounds quite straight forward i like the idea of actually geting stuck into the raw ingredients ive onley done three kits but it does feel a bit like your only doing half the job with the kit .how much would the ingredients work out price wise

[196osh]

Next brew you do, take it all up a notch. Here's a little recipe I made just now using Beertools.

Buy two tins of liquid malt extract. Tip them into the fermenter on top of 2L of boiling water and give them a good stir until dissolved. Add your 500g of spray malt to a pot along with 3L of water and boil up. You could boil it for an hour and add hops during that time as follows:

So... as soon as it starts boiling add
50g of Sazz for 60 mins - This will add bitterness
25g Sazz 20 mins (so 40 mins later) - This will add flavour
25g Sazz 1 min (19 mins later) - This will add aroma

Sit the pot in a sink of cold water then when it hits room temperature, pour it through a colander into the fermenter to stop the spent hops from going in. Make sure you squeeze the remaining wort from the hops then discard.

Top up with cold water to 23L and pitch the yeast

Alcohol: 4.5%
Bitterness: 22.6

Give it a go!

I have read somewhere that your not supposed to squeeze out hops...

Could be wrong.

[floydmeddler]

that sounds quite straight forward i like the idea of actually geting stuck into the raw ingredients ive onley done three kits but it does feel a bit like your only doing half the job with the kit .how much would the ingredients work out price wise

Two tins of extract will cost you £14, the hops should be around £5 and honey £1.50. Also... use Safale04 yeast for a really professional flavour.

A little more expensive than how you've been doing it to date but the results will be a million times better.

Let me know if you need any more advice.

[floydmeddler]

I have read somewhere that your not supposed to squeeze out hops...

Could be wrong.[/quote]


Have never heard this. I know that squeezing the grains is bad but can't think why squeezing the hops would be.

Then again... I could be wrong!

Will look into it...

Cheers

[beer]

I'm up for giving this a try on my next brew looks like a simple technique .i checked out the costs on the internet your right more expensive but hopefully worth the extra is it as full proof as i looks id hate to do it and ruin it by doing some thing stupid would you just put the honey straight in to the fv and mix as in a kit .
are sazz hops best to use or can you use a combination to get a different finish I've had a look at the extract forum some of it went a bit over my head at the moment but interesting. i think just a matter of waiting for pay day and a trip to hbs

[floydmeddler]

I'm up for giving this a try on my next brew looks like a simple technique .i checked out the costs on the internet your right more expensive but hopefully worth the extra is it as full proof as i looks id hate to do it and ruin it by doing some thing stupid would you just put the honey straight in to the fv and mix as in a kit .
are sazz hops best to use or can you use a combination to get a different finish I've had a look at the extract forum some of it went a bit over my head at the moment but interesting. i think just a matter of waiting for pay day and a trip to hbs

Cool!

Just make sure you sanitize the hell out of everything.

Treat the tins as you would a typical kit

Boil the honey with the spray malt and hops for the last 15mins. That will kill any organisms.

You can use different varieties of hops but as it is your first go at it, I used one type in the recipe as it will save you money. Have brewed a Honey ale using only Sazz a few times and have had great results. If you want something with a nice fresh citrus taste, you could also add 30g of orange zest along with the honey. Am planning a brew very similar to this next wk or the wk after.

Any more questions, feel free to ask.

Cheers

[blankfrank]

Thanks for this....I've got a couple of kits still to put on and then I'm going to give this a whirl.



Drinking
Milestone Black Pearl (down to last 2 bottles)!

Conditioning
Munton's Smuggler's

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FV.2 TC Real Ale, 1kg DME, 125g BodyBru

Waiting
Brewtherm Wheat Beer
Milestone Black Pearl

[alefric]

I have read somewhere that your not supposed to squeeze out hops...

Could be wrong.

Have never heard this. I know that squeezing the grains is bad but can't think why squeezing the hops would be.

Then again... I could be wrong!

Will look into it...

Cheers[/quote]

You would be better rinsing with water at 80deg C i.e hop sparging......and no i can't remember why either ( must be my age!!)

Andrew