Hi all, I'm new to this and I was wondering if it is possible to carry out the secondary fermentation in a pressurized barrel and then transfer to bottles so that there would be no sediment in the bottles.
Thanks for any help.
Rikpo.
From barrel to bottle?
Re: From barrel to bottle?
I bottle straight from the FV; a little yeast hurt no-one.
I would be concerned for the method you suggest, even if only because swapping between vessels risks oxidisation. Wiser minds than mine will prevail, I'm sure.
I would be concerned for the method you suggest, even if only because swapping between vessels risks oxidisation. Wiser minds than mine will prevail, I'm sure.
Re: From barrel to bottle?
Thanks PMH & Chris,
I've got a couple of days to think about it.
I may even bottle half and put the rest in the barrel or would the fact that the barrel was only half full cause a problem with there being extra air in the barrel?
Rikpo
I've got a couple of days to think about it.
I may even bottle half and put the rest in the barrel or would the fact that the barrel was only half full cause a problem with there being extra air in the barrel?
Rikpo
Re: From barrel to bottle?
rikpo if ya doin lager put it in bottles,if ya doin beer put it in ya barrell..i got the feeling though ya gunna use that barrell come wot may 

Re: From barrel to bottle?
I use 2ltr pet bottles for my brews.I then syphon the beer out into a juice jug with a lid and spout on it bought from Tesco.I got that tip on here by Sparky paul.Ive noticed on some muntons and cheaper kits like Definitive bitter [that Im supping now] has a very fine sediment that disturbs at the slightest movement of the bottle.Coopers kits must use a superior yeast and the sediment is much more compact and stable .If you pour the bottle carefully you will leave the sediment behind. 

Re: From barrel to bottle?
ahh woodfords nog,i know nothing about that rikpo,just do lager/pils mate chrissy boy knows his stuff though,but best of luck with it 

Re: From barrel to bottle?
I did exactly that with a muntons export pilsner- in a pressure barrel for 2 days then bottled from the keg using an improvised bottling stick. It worked well, though i think a may not have given it enough time as theres quite a lot of sediment and it disturbs easily. Next time im using safale/saflager.
Re: From barrel to bottle?
Well after the fermentation stuck for a while I bought a heater and got it going again.
What I've done is bottle 12 pints, and put the rest into the barrel. After a couple of weeks or so when its ready I intend to bottle a further 12 pints from the barrel.
I can then leave the 2nd lot of bottles a couple of weeks whilst I sample the the 1st lot and the barrel. After the 2 Weeks will find out if I made a mistake or not.
My main reason for wanting to bottle after the 2nd fermentation is to reduce the amount of sediment in the bottles so that I can take some with me to family & friends (and hopefully show off) without having to wait to long for it to settle.
I know I may be asking too much but hopefully I'll learn by my mistakes.
This is my first brew in about 25 years and then it was only with cheap kits, plus then I wasn't as patient as I am now and I probably didn't sterilize properly. Its a lot easier now with Internet, you can get help without even leaving your house.
So thanks all the tips from this and other threads.
I will report back in due course, hopefully with good new.
Rikpo.
What I've done is bottle 12 pints, and put the rest into the barrel. After a couple of weeks or so when its ready I intend to bottle a further 12 pints from the barrel.
I can then leave the 2nd lot of bottles a couple of weeks whilst I sample the the 1st lot and the barrel. After the 2 Weeks will find out if I made a mistake or not.
My main reason for wanting to bottle after the 2nd fermentation is to reduce the amount of sediment in the bottles so that I can take some with me to family & friends (and hopefully show off) without having to wait to long for it to settle.
I know I may be asking too much but hopefully I'll learn by my mistakes.
This is my first brew in about 25 years and then it was only with cheap kits, plus then I wasn't as patient as I am now and I probably didn't sterilize properly. Its a lot easier now with Internet, you can get help without even leaving your house.
So thanks all the tips from this and other threads.
I will report back in due course, hopefully with good new.
Rikpo.