Priming coopers real ale for barrell

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BREWMCROFT

Priming coopers real ale for barrell

Post by BREWMCROFT » Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:33 am

Hi, my first ever kit (coopers real ale) is now ready to be moved to the barrell but i'm not sure how much i should prime it. I have made up the kit using what came with it and normal sugar. It will b going into a youngs 5gallon barrell from wilkinsons. How much should i prime it and would i be best off using something other than normal grantlated sugar

Mogwyth

Re: Priming coopers real ale for barrell

Post by Mogwyth » Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:38 am

Most Coopers kits recommend 8gms per litre, so if it's 23 litres that's 184gms. I am not sure how much difference the type of sugar used for priming would make to the flavour to be honest its a very small amount when you think of the quantity.

rollin danny

Re: Priming coopers real ale for barrell

Post by rollin danny » Sun Mar 08, 2009 7:28 pm

Mogwyth wrote:Most Coopers kits recommend 8gms per litre, so if it's 23 litres that's 184gms. I am not sure how much difference the type of sugar used for priming would make to the flavour to be honest its a very small amount when you think of the quantity.
Bloody hell Mogwyth ! You'll be fartin for a month if you prime with 184gms. :mrgreen:

Mogwyth

Re: Priming coopers real ale for barrell

Post by Mogwyth » Sun Mar 08, 2009 8:53 pm

rollin danny wrote:
Mogwyth wrote:Most Coopers kits recommend 8gms per litre, so if it's 23 litres that's 184gms. I am not sure how much difference the type of sugar used for priming would make to the flavour to be honest its a very small amount when you think of the quantity.
Bloody hell Mogwyth ! You'll be fartin for a month if you prime with 184gms. :mrgreen:

From Coopers own web site ( http://www.coopers.com.au/media/files/1451.pdf).

PRIMING THE BREW
Rather than individually priming each bottle you may prefer to transfer
the wort to another large, sanitised container. Then dissolve 180g of
sugar in hot water, add it to the wort, stir for 30 seconds and then begin
bottling. Ensure that the 180g is measured accurately so that no extra
sugar is added.

Mogwyth

Re: Priming coopers real ale for barrell

Post by Mogwyth » Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:58 pm

Chris-x1 wrote:
and then begin bottling.
any pressure in excess of 10 psi in a pressure barrel (see title of thread) will be released by the pressure relief valve, unless it is faulty. If it is (and it happens) the barrel will deform or the cap will split.
Hi Chris

Wasn't challenging your recommendation for barreling, more the farting comment.

Cheers

Bill

Mogwyth

Re: Priming coopers real ale for barrell

Post by Mogwyth » Sun Mar 08, 2009 10:14 pm

Chris-x1 wrote:Worth making the point to save any knackered barrels :)
True, presumably the Aussies don't keg their home brews as there is no mention about reducing the amount of priming sugar when barreling.

Mogwyth

Re: Priming coopers real ale for barrell

Post by Mogwyth » Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:18 pm

OH primes all my bottles she puts flat tsp in each 500ml bottle, which she reckons its a fraction under 4gms and we haven't had any beer bombs yet [-o<

BREWMCROFT

Re: Priming coopers real ale for barrell

Post by BREWMCROFT » Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:21 pm

Thanks for all the replies. I used 80grm of sugar so hopefully all will be ok. Couldn't resist a little taste and i was very impressed for my first attempt. Gonna leave it for a couple of weeks now so hopefully it will get even better. I did this one using normal sugar because i wanted to follow the instuctions with the kit exactly for my first attempt. Next I'm either gonna do the same kit again using spray malt so that i can see the difference between the two or maybe do the Coopers Stout with spray malt. Thanks again for the advice.

Wolfdog

Re: Priming coopers real ale for barrell

Post by Wolfdog » Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:32 pm

rollin danny wrote:
Mogwyth wrote:Most Coopers kits recommend 8gms per litre, so if it's 23 litres that's 184gms. I am not sure how much difference the type of sugar used for priming would make to the flavour to be honest its a very small amount when you think of the quantity.
Bloody hell Mogwyth ! You'll be fartin for a month if you prime with 184gms. :mrgreen:
Just like to say "Fartin!" I have woke my wife up during the night with the biggest farts ever recorded after a night on the home brew! Outstanding!!! =D> =D> =D>
I over primed my keg, the valve was fualty and the bottom of the keg nearly inverted!!! #-o I had to release the presure then use CO2 to re gas the keg. Beer un affected and tasted lovely! :twisted: I'm now brewing a Coopers IPA using light LME (one full tin of) and I intend using DME to prime, any body think this would be a bad idea, please advise! I just wanted to taste what it would be like with no table suger like my last brew.
This time to avoid the brew staling I've used submergable heater along with a air trap that is bubbling like a gud un! fiingers crossed this should be a beauty!!!!
Love the beer! love the Farts!!!! LOL :=P :lol: :mrgreen: :twisted:

Shifter

Re: Priming coopers real ale for barrell

Post by Shifter » Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:08 pm

Check your ringpiece! :oops: I bought one of those wilko cheap barels, and after a couple of weeks found I'd got 5 gals of flat beer :cry: . Make sure it's pushed right the way down. coopers IPA one of the nicest kits I've made so far.

rollin danny

Re: Priming coopers real ale for barrell

Post by rollin danny » Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:41 pm

Shifter wrote:Check your ringpiece! :oops: I bought one of those wilko cheap barels, and after a couple of weeks found I'd got 5 gals of flat beer :cry: . Make sure it's pushed right the way down. coopers IPA one of the nicest kits I've made so far.
Which i.p.a was it ? Ive done the standard one with brew sugar and it came out nice and deceptively strong ,as I found out after trying to stand up after five pints :shock: Ive got the masterbrew one now and was thinking doing it with ldme for a quality brew.Any thoughts?

Operator

Re: Priming coopers real ale for barrell

Post by Operator » Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:42 am

Rolin danny, I've just cracked open my Coopers Brewmaster IPA made with 1kg light dsm and its a lovely pint, relly good flavour and refreshing, a bit too easy to drink, seems to disappear very quickly #-o I reckon it's coming in at about 4.25%. Had a slight problem with the pressure valve on my KK but after taking it off and wrapping some PTFE tape round the thread (my cure for everything pressure related :=P ) and lubing the rubbers it fine now.

rollin danny

Re: Priming coopers real ale for barrell

Post by rollin danny » Wed Mar 11, 2009 8:50 pm

Operator,Ive got 1kg ldme but was thinking doing 50/50 with brew sugar to keep costs down.The malt cost me £6.49 from my local brew shop so it really bumps the price up.Worth it though for a quality brew.Ive not tried 50/50 with coopers stout only the full kilo.The instructions on the can recomend 500 kg malt and 300 dextrose so it should turn out great if you want to split it.

Operator

Re: Priming coopers real ale for barrell

Post by Operator » Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:51 am

I know what you mean about cost. I might try a 50/50 next time to see the difference. Another thread mentioned morrisons doing raw cane sugar for a quid. Got to be worth a punt, even if it's not as good I'll still drink it! :twisted:

crafty john

Re: Priming coopers real ale for barrell

Post by crafty john » Thu Mar 12, 2009 9:57 am

Operator wrote:I know what you mean about cost. I might try a 50/50 next time to see the difference. Another thread mentioned morrisons doing raw cane sugar for a quid. Got to be worth a punt, even if it's not as good I'll still drink it! :twisted:
Hi operator
The sugar you need to look for on the shelf is Morrisons own brand golden granulated or golden caster sugar, the only ingredient is raw cane sugar, I think one is a few pence cheaper than the other. They also do 2 kilo bags of demerera.

Cheers

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